GRAW Chapter 2 Content Now Available

[TheKleaner]

Thursday 22.06.06 GRAW 360 Chapter 2 released

We're proud to announce that Chapter 2, the highly anticipated downloadable content (DLC) package for Tom Clancy’s Ghost Recon Advanced Warfighter is now available for download via Xbox Live! Marketplace. This quality premium content package will enhance and build upon the critically acclaimed original game by offering players an extensive continuation of the multiplayer co-op campaign set deep within Nicaragua, as well as extending players Live! experience with a wide array of new playable maps, game modes and character customization features. This premium content package is available now for download via the Xbox Live! Marketplace for 1200 points.

“The release of Tom Clancy’s Ghost Recon Advanced Warfighter has been a resounding success as it continues to top both sales and Xbox Live charts, and we are extremely excited to build upon that success with the release of this massive content update in Chapter 2,” said John Parkes, EMEA Marketing Director of Ubisoft. “As a firmly established industry leader in supporting our games with the delivery of fresh and innovative new content at a great value, we are committed now more than ever to carrying that accomplishment into the next generation of gaming.”

Tom Clancy’s Ghost Recon Advanced Warfighter Chapter 2 Content Includes:
Continuation of the Multiplayer Co-op Campaign with 4 All New Missions in Chapter 2
8 Revisited; Relit Multiplayer Adversarial Maps
2 All New Game Types with 1 New Game Mode - Team Battle
2 New Camouflage Patterns
4 New Character Customization Faces
5 New Weapons
There is also a video and new screenshots which show you the contents of the DLC available on the Ghost Recon Advanced Warfighter product page, so click through and find out what it's all about!

[RX MissFire86]

It just came out 5 minutes ago. I'm downloading it right now.

1200 points- this better be good!

[KilloWertz]

1200 points- this better be good!

My thoughts exactly. Gonna probably still get it though.

[Steel Onimusha]

the dl is slow as molasses :(

[Cherish PMS]

No kidding Steel. 30 minutes or so and I'm only at 5% >_<

[LadyLuck1]

Let me know if it's worth it right off, I'm kinda reluctant to pay it (I'm a cheap teenager with not a lot of money). But it sounds good....

and that's a lot of content, probably why it's taking so long :)

[Chemical Pink]

wow, It's gonna take all night :(

[H2O SkywalkerX]

OMFG!
NOOOO
i just let my cousin borrow it for 2 weeks...and he doesnt have high speed :(
now im gonna have to wait till i get back to get the maps! noooo :(

[Chemical Pink]

I've been downloading it for an hour and it's still on 1%!!!! OMFG :eek:

[H2O SkywalkerX]

whoa that is gonna take me a freakin day!
:(

[KilloWertz]

Try stopping the download and starting it again. Don't worry, it will just pick up from where it was. From the sound of it, it's looking like it's a darn good thing Microsoft got that Dashboard update out before this. Otherwise nobody could play anything at all tonight.

Skywalker, I don't think you'll have to worry about this. By the time you're able to get it, the rush on Chapter 2 will be long over. It's only this slow tonight because I'm sure a ton of people are downloading it.

[Athena PMS]

i was having major issues, but now at least it is moving every minute or so lol. Still a long time ><

[KilloWertz]

i was having major issues, but now at least it is moving every minute or so lol. Still a long time ><

That's progress. Baby steps. :)

Microsoft could stand to upgrade the servers or something to help. It seems whenever something big is released on Marketplace, the servers get bogged down really badly.

[CYPHER]

I feel like a child on Christmas eve! The damn download is taking forever! I just want to play!!!

[Chemical Pink]

I gave up:( It was on 1 for 2 hours and I just quit. lol

[KilloWertz]

I gave up:( It was on 1 for 2 hours and I just quit. lol

You can always continue the download some other time. Maybe it will be better tomorrow.

[Mocha]

Did anyones get done yet?? I'm at 35%... I want to play the new levels NOW!!!:p

[Kal-El]

I think it's kinda sad that just because there's a marketplace all the companies are charging for DLC as if it was a requirement. UBI, a company that gave out loads of free DLC in the past, is now being kinda greedy just because they can.

They released the same type of DLC on GR2 for free (twice), but now they're charging for it. Seems kinda weird.

I'm pretty sure that someone's going to say "well it's harder to code on the 360, so they have to charge for it." That just isn't true, I'm sure of it. Right now they aren't using the Xbox 360 anywhere close to it's full potential, and I'm sure the coding isn't much different than how they coded for Xbox. Proof of that is that GRAW is on both xbox and xbox 360.

Basically what I'm saying is that I hope xbox 360 doesn't mean the end of free DLC. Having to pay for a game and then having to pay for each DLC they put out would suck. You're pretty much obligated to buy them, if you want to continue playing the game online. If you don't, then it reduces the amount of people you can play with dramatically. Some people just can't afford to keep up like that.

Anyways, this DLC looks pretty cool. It sucks I don't have a 360 yet. :(

[KilloWertz]

I will agree with you about DLC to an extent. On the other hand, GRAW on Xbox and Xbox 360 are actually quite different in quality. The 360 version is superior.

[Kal-El]

I will agree with you about DLC to an extent. On the other hand, GRAW on Xbox and Xbox 360 are actually quite different in quality. The 360 version is superior.

On the surface maybe, but coding wise I'm sure they are pretty much the same. No developer would code a game for one platform, and then completely recode it for another. They code it for one and then take things out/add things and modify it a little so it works on the second platform, and then repeat the process for a third platform if necessary. I'm guessing what they do is code for the superior platform first and then take features out and tone down the visual beauty for the others.

As I said they are using the xbox 360 nowhere near it's full potential, so I'm sure the coding isn't much different than the coding you'd find on xbox 1. They just aren't at that stage yet.

That's what gets me excited. I can't wait to see what they come up with when they really unlock the 360's potential. We'll have to wait 2-3 years for that though.

[Miss_Insanio]

i still think 1200 points is just ridiculous... but by lack of good games... i guess i hav no choice lol :)

[Fayth]

1200 points, sheesh. I dont even know the original maps yet, lol

[Kakerotto]

hmm, alittle steep, but it depends per person:rolleyes:

[Chemical Pink]

You can always continue the download some other time. Maybe it will be better tomorrow.
lol, I know but gosh thats worse than the rumble roses demo! :( :eek:

[TheKleaner]

I think it's kinda sad that just because there's a marketplace all the companies are charging for DLC as if it was a requirement. UBI, a company that gave out loads of free DLC in the past, is now being kinda greedy just because they can.

They released the same type of DLC on GR2 for free (twice), but now they're charging for it. Seems kinda weird.

I'm pretty sure that someone's going to say "well it's harder to code on the 360, so they have to charge for it." That just isn't true, I'm sure of it. Right now they aren't using the Xbox 360 anywhere close to it's full potential, and I'm sure the coding isn't much different than how they coded for Xbox. Proof of that is that GRAW is on both xbox and xbox 360.

Basically what I'm saying is that I hope xbox 360 doesn't mean the end of free DLC. Having to pay for a game and then having to pay for each DLC they put out would suck. You're pretty much obligated to buy them, if you want to continue playing the game online. If you don't, then it reduces the amount of people you can play with dramatically. Some people just can't afford to keep up like that.

Anyways, this DLC looks pretty cool. It sucks I don't have a 360 yet. :(

Can't look at it that way. You have to remember that Ubi was known for releasing follow-up games that were not much more than expansion packs and yet were still not compatible with the original versions...anyone remember the 1st ghost recon and Island Thunder...that was crap! I'm more than happy to pay 1200 points than have to buy another game.

[Kal-El]

Can't look at it that way. You have to remember that Ubi was known for releasing follow-up games that were not much more than expansion packs and yet were still not compatible with the original versions...anyone remember the 1st ghost recon and Island Thunder...that was crap! I'm more than happy to pay 1200 points than have to buy another game.

How many download packs did they release for GR2 for free? Sure they had the expansion, but that came with a whole new single player, so it's more like a sequel than merely an expansion.

And like I said not everyone can keep up with the DLC that they have to pay for. If they don't get it they can't play the game anymore, or atleast the number of people they can join and play with is greatly reduced. With all the DLC you have to pay for, games end up costing you 100$ each just so you can keep playing them. Do you think that's right? I don't. This is what a lot of people would call "milking your customers". The company gets you to pay for their game, but that isn't enough. They have to squeeze as much extra money out of you as they can.

From what I'm observing of Xbox live, I'd say the market place was an extremely bad idea. I wonder how long it'll take people to get sick and tired of it. Paying 60-70$ for a game, and then having to pay +30$ in DLC just to keep playing it. I hope it's soon. If people start to speak up, the companies might see the error of their ways and offer more free DLC.

[TheKleaner]

How many download packs did they release for GR2 for free? Sure they had the expansion, but that came with a whole new single player, so it's more like a sequel than merely an expansion.

And like I said not everyone can keep up with the DLC that they have to pay for. If they don't get it they can't play the game anymore, or atleast the number of people they can join and play with is greatly reduced. With all the DLC you have to pay for, games end up costing you 100$ each just so you can keep playing them. Do you think that's right? I don't. This is what a lot of people would call "milking your customers". The company gets you to pay for their game, but that isn't enough. They have to squeeze as much extra money out of you as they can.

From what I'm observing of Xbox live, I'd say the market place was an extremely bad idea. I wonder how long it'll take people to get sick and tired of it. Paying 60-70$ for a game, and then having to pay +30$ in DLC just to keep playing it. I hope it's soon. If people start to speak up, the companies might see the error of their ways and offer more free DLC.

I don't know how many DL packs they released for GR2 because I didnt feel the need to buy the game a second time like I had in the past. Example, GR1 50 bucks, Island Thunder 40 bucks for a total of 90 bucks. GRAW 60 + 15 bucks (or less) for DL content = 75 bucks and the bonus here is I can still use GRAW online if i decide not buy that content and not worry waht version my friends are playing. Island Thunder was not compatible with GR1 and I think GR2 was not with the expansion that came out later either.

Where are you coming up with $30 for DL content? 1600pts = 20 bucks or less so 400 points = 5 bucks. If you can't afford the DL content you DONT HAVE TO BUY IT, you can still play the game with your friends, you just wont be playing the new content. Developers work hard to make this additional content and if they want to get paid so be it. I talked to the Ubi developers about the new content at E3 and they were proud as hell about it. I didnt hear anyone really complaining when the expansion maps for Halo2 came out and had a cost attached to them. Maybe Ubi will follow suit and offer some of the maps later for free like bungie did. Buying the new content may just be the cost of being an early adopter.

In contrast to your observation, I think the market place was and is an outstanding idea. Demo's available to play try the latest games with out having to purchase OXM (which is one of the worst written mag's available IMO) in order to try them. The E3 content was amazing and there has been some free content available for PGR3, Burnout and 2 free maps for CoD2. There was premium DL content for the original Xbox that M$ offered (Links maps and whatnot) that people complained about as well but that was to be expected. Is everything gonna be free from now on...probably not but M$ isnt charging an arm and a leg for the content either.

Lets just agree to disagree on this subject okay?

[CYPHER]

As much as I play Graw. It was worth the price. The maps are awesome, they have the Ghost Recon 2 feel to them. I think the maps on GRAW were missing some of the Ghost Recon 2 features I enjoyed so much. Nowhere at night is awesome! You can hide in the shadows and people walk right past you. If you don't have enough. I am assuming it will be free here in the near future.

[Kelpie PMS]

If you don't have the maps you can't join someones room if they do. We had a GameBattles match tonight and we didn't get to play it because no one could host the match.

[Kal-El]

I don't know how many DL packs they released for GR2 because I didnt feel the need to buy the game a second time like I had in the past. Example, GR1 50 bucks, Island Thunder 40 bucks for a total of 90 bucks. GRAW 60 + 15 bucks (or less) for DL content = 75 bucks and the bonus here is I can still use GRAW online if i decide not buy that content and not worry waht version my friends are playing. Island Thunder was not compatible with GR1 and I think GR2 was not with the expansion that came out later either.

Where are you coming up with $30 for DL content? 1600pts = 20 bucks or less so 400 points = 5 bucks. If you can't afford the DL content you DONT HAVE TO BUY IT, you can still play the game with your friends, you just wont be playing the new content. Developers work hard to make this additional content and if they want to get paid so be it. I talked to the Ubi developers about the new content at E3 and they were proud as hell about it. I didnt hear anyone really complaining when the expansion maps for Halo2 came out and had a cost attached to them. Maybe Ubi will follow suit and offer some of the maps later for free like bungie did. Buying the new content may just be the cost of being an early adopter.

In contrast to your observation, I think the market place was and is an outstanding idea. Demo's available to play try the latest games with out having to purchase OXM (which is one of the worst written mag's available IMO) in order to try them. The E3 content was amazing and there has been some free content available for PGR3, Burnout and 2 free maps for CoD2. There was premium DL content for the original Xbox that M$ offered (Links maps and whatnot) that people complained about as well but that was to be expected. Is everything gonna be free from now on...probably not but M$ isnt charging an arm and a leg for the content either.

Lets just agree to disagree on this subject okay?

As Kelpie said, you can't join a room with the DLC if you don't have it. So if you decide not to put it it cuts into your ability to play the game.

Also, I got 30$ because this one was 15$. I wouldn't be surprised if there's another one a couple months down the road. That makes 30$.

If UBI (or any other company) releases 2-3 or even 4 DLC pack at 1200 points each you end up having to pay 60$ extra? Having to pay a total of 120$ for a game is fair? I don't think so. Especially since you have no choice but to buy them if you want to actually play instead of sitting in the server list trying to find one you can actually can connect to.

I have no problems with the market place in terms of demos, etc. However, all the marketplace is doing in terms of DLC, is inviting companies to be greedy and force people to dish out even more money if they want to continue playing a game.

PS: I'm pretty sure the Developers get paid whether or not they charge for DLC, so it makes no difference to them. It all has to do with suits at the top wanting to line their pockets a little thicker.

[CYPHER]

If you don't have the maps you can't join someones room if they do. We had a GameBattles match tonight and we didn't get to play it because no one could host the match.

That is what Mocha told me last night! That really sucks, but you have to admit that it is a brilliant way to make money! In order to play you are going to have to download the maps! Thus creating demand for the map pack! Brilliant!

[TheKleaner]

PS: I'm pretty sure the Developers get paid whether or not they charge for DLC, so it makes no difference to them. It all has to do with suits at the top wanting to line their pockets a little thicker.

Unfortunately the suits (Publisher) pays the developers so in essence it is a trickle down effect. But like I said and as Roadkill mentioned, just like the Halo 2 maps this content will probably be free down the road at some point.

[Kal-El]

Unfortunately the suits (Publisher) pays the developers so in essence it is a trickle down effect. But like I said and as Roadkill mentioned, just like the Halo 2 maps this content will probably be free down the road at some point.

All downloadable content that I've seen is like that (unless it's free to begin with). That means unless you want to pay 60$ plus 15$ (and another 15$ if they come out with another DLC two months down the road) for your game, you won't be able to play it online again for like 6 months.

Unless developpers are paid on commision, which I highly doubt, they get paid whether there's a game or DLC out or not. In other words they get a weekly (or bi-weekly) salary, which is paid by the millions the game itself makes. I doubt they get any sort of bonus for releasing DLC, so they don't see a penny of the 15$ you paid for it. It all goes to the suits and their profit margin.

[The Geeky Panda]

1,200 is pricey but its worth it, the new Co-Op Missions are alot harder than Chapter 1 and so much fun playing with tons of people, also the new MP and relite maps as well are surprisingly fun, new weapons are pretty good too and Team Battle is insanely fun, its the only thing I been playing lol.

[CYPHER]

1,200 is pricey but its worth it, the new Co-Op Missions are alot harder than Chapter 1 and so much fun playing with tons of people, also the new MP and relite maps as well are surprisingly fun, new weapons are pretty good too and Team Battle is insanely fun, its the only thing I been playing lol.

Team battle is pretty fun! I don't usually play co-op unless I am bored. I played team battle against my son tonight and it was surprisingly fun!

[The Geeky Panda]

if there was AI controller Vehicels/APCs/Tanks, it would be the best gametype ever

[CYPHER]

Yep, then it would be called Battlefield Modern Combat. LOL!

[Kal-El]

Yep, then it would be called Battlefield Modern Combat. LOL!

Not really since in Battlefield the vehicles are player controlled. :)

[RX MissFire86]

If you think 1200 points is too much for DLC, then you'll hate this fact: DLC is only available to the single person who paid for and downloaded it. This means that although I already paid for the DLC, my dad and brother will have to pay separately to be able to play the maps on their own profiles even though we all 3 share the same Xbox 360.

Now THAT is wack. I guess they'll be playing GRAW under my GT for awhile.

[Nessa85]

If you think 1200 points is too much for DLC, then you'll hate this fact: DLC is only available to the single person who paid for and downloaded it. This means that although I already paid for the DLC, my dad and brother will have to pay separately to be able to play the maps on their own profiles even though we all 3 share the same Xbox 360.

Now THAT is wack. I guess they'll be playing GRAW under my GT for awhile.


That's not right. My boyfriend downloaded the DLC on his account, but I can still play it with my own acount.

[TheKleaner]

Unless developpers are paid on commision, which I highly doubt, they get paid whether there's a game or DLC out or not. In other words they get a weekly (or bi-weekly) salary, which is paid by the millions the game itself makes. I doubt they get any sort of bonus for releasing DLC, so they don't see a penny of the 15$ you paid for it. It all goes to the suits and their profit margin.

Semantics...they're gettin paid. Wether I sell 10,000 dollars of equipment in a month or 500,000 I get paid...its called a job. If I reach a specific quota then there is bonus or additional commision paid. I don't know about you but I've never seen Ubi's business model so I can't really comment on how profits are distributed but the point is, as long as Ubi has money coming in (wether its from DLC $, Game sales or something else) the developers get paid. The charge for the current DLC may stem from losses incurred for giving all the previous content away for free or it could be greed but we will never know.