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Chester
11-12-2011, 09:34 PM
(Blue Side) Our Team : Sion (ap, solo mid)
Irelia (solo top)
MF (bot)
Taric (bot)
Skarner (Jungler)
(Purple Side) Their Team : Nidalee (ap, solo mid)
Janna (ap solo top)
Cait (bot)
Sona (bot)
Trundle (Jungle)

So after the match, base on my experience, they got a strong pokes then there were several things in my mind, base on our team,
1. we can't take any pokes
2. we can't do teamfights
3. we have to pick them off one by one
4. we have to split push

Gonna explain them one by one
1. Taric can't heal much, Taric shines cuz his offensive abilities (E>R>W)
2.Why no teamfight? they got **** loads of CC, b4 teamfight they will poke us with their abilities to a level that could give them advantage to win a teamfight, we chase?they kite, we back off? they chase.
3. After explaining 1&2, you might realize the reason why we have to pick off them one by one, the less people they got the less CCs they have
4. Combining 1,2&3 only one thing left to win the game "Split Push"

The Main reason why we lost the game, we keep running in to a 1V2, 2V3 fight, that's the main reason.

Then you might ask "How to win this game" ? They roam alot!!!!
B4 handing out the solution, keep this in mind LOL is a pushing game, at some point it's all about "Trading" and "Chain Effect"
Let me set up some examples, situation ones
5 enemy at Bot, only Support, ADC and Jungler defending the tower, thought of any solution? do you really think we have no choice but to force a teamfight? well, there is a solution.
1. 5 enemy at Bot lane, we got top and mid wide open, now what?
2. Our mid and top player push hard
3. Give away bot turrent
ok, do the math, we get 2 towers and they get 1, how is it? fair enough right?
why force teamfight? it's 3V5 NOT POSSIBLE TO WiN a teamfight like this,
ok, what about 5 of them are keep pushing ? keep trading, what is the result ? we got top and mid second tower, they got our bot second tower. Again do the math, worth it? hell ya!, we are forcing them to defend towers.
Let's see what we got, top and mid 2 towers total 4 towers. They got 2 towers. That's it? NO! remember, we're at the Blue side, Baron is right between top and mid lane, we got the advantage of taking baron.
Trading is never a bad thing it's just all about worth it or not.

So what if we all go bot to defend, what will happen?
scroll back up.

P.S. not really good at English, hope i did point out the thoughts in my mind

Chester
11-13-2011, 12:26 PM
we did = ="....we got top and mid tower after they got bot tower= ="
so what about 5 of them are keep pushing ? keep trading, what is the result ? we got top and mid second tower, they got our bot second tower. Again do the math, worth it? hell ya!, we are forcing them to defend towers.
Let's see what we got, top and mid 2 towers total 4 towers. They got 2 towers. That's it? NO! remember, we're at the Blue side, Baron is right between top and mid lane, we got the advantage of taking baron.
Trading is never a bad thing it's just all about worth it or not.

Ok, so they got you Trundle and you only have skarner, i made up this post just to point out even they got your main champion it's fine cuz still there is a way to win

H2O Mechie
11-13-2011, 05:15 PM
Kinda difficult to push 2 turrets in both mid and top in the same time as they take 2 bottom with all 5 of em. They would probably end up pushing base and maybe even getting an inhibitor if we would let them free push that lane.

Just saying.

H2O Trollie
11-13-2011, 08:52 PM
i think for this match everyone had a possible correct answer.
in theory, there would have been many ways for us to win.
we made a lot of mistakes which led to the result.

every game will be different and every game will test our judgement whether to push or back out.
for me i guess i've learned that getting teleport can increase the number of plans i can execute on my part.