I want a new tv but I'm not sure what to get.

[Buddy H2O]

Alright so I've had my Xbox 360 for almost a year but I've never really played on an HDTV which makes gaming look so much better. I'm also tired of 1 speaker not working because the one I have now is a cheap TV. I've looked around with my mom and we have found some pretty good deals for Christmas and stuff but I was confused on alot. As you can tell I dont know much about TV's. So we found this pretty good TV but it said SDTV. Yeah, I have no clue WTF that is lol. Also I don't know the difference between HD ready and HD built in because I found a good deal with an HD ready LCD. Basically I want to find a HDTV that doesn't cost THAT much but I want one good enough. So I need help on that.

[H2O Default]

Ok well my first suggestion on a TV is one of those that turns on. That's the main thing, if it won't turn on then it will be hard to view, HD or not.

I think the SDTV stands for Standard Def. (Maybe not?)

I hope someone else who reads with knows a bit more about it than i do...

[PMS Saphira]

You want something that specifically says HDTV.

SDTV is Standard Def. TV (worst kind)
EDTV is Enhanced De. TV (in the middle)
HDTV is High Def TV (the best)

I believe HDTV ready means that it supports HTDV, but it requires a separate HDTV receiver to get HDTV programming. I'm not sure if this would be good enough to get HDTV on your 360.

I got a little 15" HDTV (http://www.magnavox.com/index.cfm?event=main&cat_id=1&subcat_id=3&product=56) at Circuit City for about $300 a few months ago. It's not a wide screen, and it only goes up to 720p resolution. It's cheap for sure, but my 360 still looks great. I'd rather hook my 360 up to that little tv instead of my 36" SDTV.

[Buddy H2O]

Ok well my first suggestion on a TV is one of those that turns on. That's the main thing, if it won't turn on then it will be hard to view, HD or not.

I think the SDTV stands for Standard Def. (Maybe not?)

I hope someone else who reads with knows a bit more about it than i do...

yeah i heard the ones that turn on are the best kind lmao.

You want something that specifically says HDTV.

SDTV is Standard Def. TV (worst kind)
EDTV is Enhanced De. TV (in the middle)
HDTV is High Def TV (the best)

I believe HDTV ready means that it supports HTDV, but it requires a separate HDTV receiver to get HDTV programming. I'm not sure if this would be good enough to get HDTV on your 360.

I got a little 15" HDTV (http://www.magnavox.com/index.cfm?event=main&cat_id=1&subcat_id=3&product=56) at Circuit City for about $300 a few months ago. It's not a wide screen, and it only goes up to 720p resolution. It's cheap for sure, but my 360 still looks great. I'd rather hook my 360 up to that little tv instead of my 36" SDTV.

I think its kinda stupi to buy another thing just to have it HD. I guess i gotta go check out circuit city or whatnot to see what they have.

[Rip]

Rip to teh rescue!


Ok here's what your differences are depending on the HDTV you want to snag.

HDTVs - There are two major types on the market, plasma and LCD. LCDs are usually more expensive but have some advantages (like repair rates lower than plasmas and longer lifespans...hopefully). Plasmas often have higher contrast ratios but with high use will loose about 20% brightness per year (normal use conditions may be only 5-10% a year).

HD Ready - this means that your TV is capable of displaying high resolutions. So when you hook up your 360 it will display high def resolution content. Yippee. But say you want to get digital signals and high definition video over the airwaves? Sadly HD Ready TVs don't have this capabilities.
As saphira says, a HD Ready TV requires a separate ATSC / NTSC Tuner to gather HD content (well specifically the ATSC). You shouldn't have any issue playing HD content form your 360 on an HD Ready set.

Ok so definitions - In all honesty, you don't need to kill yourself to find anything over 720P, as most games will max at that resolution anyway. There will be some higher def content avilable as the 360 can output up to 1080p (ditto on the PS3), but 720P is fine. I just picked up a 32" LDC HDTV (well the family did) for a decent price on black friday, actually a better price performer per inch than the one Saphira linked. Gears looks amazing on it.

So my suggestion - Snag a HDTV, LCD preferably, and anything that will give you 720P or higher. 8MS response time is good (lower = better), contrast ratio of 1,000 to 1 (or higher) is also a plus. Plasmas go up to 10,000 to 1, so don't just straight up compare those numbers. Hm.......yea not sure what else to mention, just make sure it has component in (if it doesn't that'd be a wtf moment), and maybe HDMI or VGA as well. And of course make sure it fits well with your current setup in terms of size, price, and other features.

[PMS Evil]

leave it to rip to no it all, woo hoo :)

[Buddy H2O]

Rip to teh rescue!


Ok here's what your differences are depending on the HDTV you want to snag.

HDTVs - There are two major types on the market, plasma and LCD. LCDs are usually more expensive but have some advantages (like repair rates lower than plasmas and longer lifespans...hopefully). Plasmas often have higher contrast ratios but with high use will loose about 20% brightness per year (normal use conditions may be only 5-10% a year).

HD Ready - this means that your TV is capable of displaying high resolutions. So when you hook up your 360 it will display high def resolution content. Yippee. But say you want to get digital signals and high definition video over the airwaves? Sadly HD Ready TVs don't have this capabilities.
As saphira says, a HD Ready TV requires a separate ATSC / NTSC Tuner to gather HD content (well specifically the ATSC). You shouldn't have any issue playing HD content form your 360 on an HD Ready set.

Ok so definitions - In all honesty, you don't need to kill yourself to find anything over 720P, as most games will max at that resolution anyway. There will be some higher def content avilable as the 360 can output up to 1080p (ditto on the PS3), but 720P is fine. I just picked up a 32" LDC HDTV (well the family did) for a decent price on black friday, actually a better price performer per inch than the one Saphira linked. Gears looks amazing on it.

So my suggestion - Snag a HDTV, LCD preferably, and anything that will give you 720P or higher. 8MS response time is good (lower = better), contrast ratio of 1,000 to 1 (or higher) is also a plus. Plasmas go up to 10,000 to 1, so don't just straight up compare those numbers. Hm.......yea not sure what else to mention, just make sure it has component in (if it doesn't that'd be a wtf moment), and maybe HDMI or VGA as well. And of course make sure it fits well with your current setup in terms of size, price, and other features.


lol uhh, holy ****.

LCD is the way to go for me. I dont like the idea of paying $5000 for like a 20in plasma and then 4 years later buying another plasma bulb or whatever it is lol. The only thing im worried about wiht the LCd is the whole pixel thing. I mean do they usually get dead pixels or no? Also i wasnt gonna try and go for 1080p anyways and i have a 27 in in my room now and thats probably the biggest i'll ever go with my setup. Im still confused on the whole HD ready thing. I mean can my TV shows be HD or no? I mean either way i dont watch that much TV but it would be cool to have HD shows and stuff. Im guessing the HD ready ones arent as ex*****ive as the built in ones. Thats probably what im goin for.

To sum it all up:

25-32in (somewhere inbetween there)
720p or higher
LCD
8MS

I think im good to go. BTW rip how how much was your new tv u just got?

[Rip]

Sub $600 after taxes.
And plasmas are cheap, thats what we were going to get if they hadn't sold out in like 2 sec. 42" Plasma for $800 was a nice price. Oh well.

If you have a standard 27" right now that is not widescreen, a widescreen 32" will be the SAME Height almost exactly, it'll just be wider.

TV Shows can indeed be in high definnition, say you go to your local PBS station (channel 39 around here). They always broadcast the standard channel 39 which is an analog signal. Then they also have a digital version (standard definition still though) which is channel 39.1. A HD Ready set would need a separate HD Tuner to view that, while an HDTV with an ATSC / NTSC Tuner has it integrated.
Now to confuse you even more, PBS sometimes decides to broadcast that channel 39.1 in high definition, at which point a HDTV would be able to utilize the high definition content from the digital signal. Oh and just fyi, there's also channel 39.2, and 39.3 here as well. When we put in our LCD HDTV here we actually gained a dozen channels or so over the spectrum because of the digital channels.

Ofte HD ready ones aren't quite as pricy, but you can keep your eye out and find very nicely priced HDTV sets with integrated tuners.

[Doll PMS]

Plasma is cheaper than LCD

[abercrombie]

LCD is cheaper, i think you should get a plasma buddy, they have better quality and they last longer

[Buddy H2O]

LCD is cheaper, i think you should get a plasma buddy, they have better quality and they last longer

they last longer? Thats not what i have been told and cheaper isn't what I've been told either. My friend bought a 37 in LCD for $900 and I've seen plasma for that size around $3000 and why would LCD not last as long? LCD doesn't last longer than 4 years?

[Butler47]

I'm in the same predicament as you.

360 but no HDTV

So I went looking and searching and I found my dream baby.

A 37" Phillips Ambilight Flastscreen HD LCD tv.

It costs $1599 which I think is very reasonable for a tv of that quality and size. Plus it has MOOD LIGHT!!!!

We both should get one and play online together and talk about how sweet it is lol

Anyway to promote LCD, if say you leave your Plasma on for to long like say you paused a game a fell asleep or did something etc the image can get frozen on the screen and it cant be fixed.

[Buddy H2O]

I'm in the same predicament as you.

360 but no HDTV

So I went looking and searching and I found my dream baby.

A 37" Phillips Ambilight Flastscreen HD LCD tv.

It costs $1599 which I think is very reasonable for a tv of that quality and size. Plus it has MOOD LIGHT!!!!

We both should get one and play online together and talk about how sweet it is lol

Anyway to promote LCD, if say you leave your Plasma on for to long like say you paused a game a fell asleep or did something etc the image can get frozen on the screen and it cant be fixed.


hhahah yeh im definatly getting LCD, dosnt matter if its more money due to the fact that probably the first day i get my plasma its gonna be broken haha.

[Butler47]

I'm getting it just for the ambilight.

No really they say the contrast from the light to the sharp picture actually enchances what your viewing.

Plus its "moody" just gotta buy a mood ring and some incences and I'll be set lol

[H2O Default]

I'm in the same predicament as you.

Anyway to promote LCD, if say you leave your Plasma on for to long like say you paused a game a fell asleep or did something etc the image can get frozen on the screen and it cant be fixed.

The problem that you are referring to is fixed in the newer Plasma TV's.

[Butler47]

It is? Then I stand corrected.

Thanks for the clarification.

[Blue]

Yes, alot of the previous issue's that Plasma had playing video games, the've fixed.

[Kaiser Mitsu]

Well from what I hear is that a CRT TV will give you the best picture, without the possiblilty of dead pixels or the possibility of having to replace anything on it. What I have heard from all the fourms that I visit is to get a HD CRT TV.

[Butler47]

Do they even have have CRT HD Tvs?

CRT is like a regular tv or computer monitor witht he big bag and all.

I thought HD only came in plasma lcd etc?

*edit* I read up on it and from what I see they are rare.

CRTS are nice but not sexy.

Its like a yaris compared to a corvette. Both are good cars, reliable etc but one is just more asthetically pleasing.

[PMS Kahlo]

CRTS are nice but not sexy.




I don't know, my CRT HD TV is pretty darn sexy. Especially with my 360. :D

[Butler47]

Sure...... lol

I believe that. ^_^

Thats sexy just like my sexy dance is lol

[Kaiser Mitsu]

Yeah they are a lil rare but you will get the best picture from it. They might not look that great but isnt it the picture that matter?

[PMS Kahlo]

Sure...... lol

I believe that. ^_^

Thats sexy just like my sexy dance is lol

Well I like it. :p

http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a152/Herbgoddess/Random/setup_crystal.jpg

[Butler47]

*Drools*.....


Ummm What we were talking about I got side tracked by that lucious gaming setup. lol

[SuperSaiyan4]

Those with CRT HDTV's have you compared them with an LCD HDTV? What do you reckon looks better?

Also in regards to burn in it still applies to Plasma they are still subject to it however LCD's give a better picture that is more vibrant, uses less power and is thinner than a Plasma.

[H2OSilentCid]

Butler I like your avatar of Chado from Bleach. I like my Hitachi HD Video Projector Which shoots out about well over 150' screen. can't beat that when playing games.

[SuperSaiyan4]

Butler I like your avatar of Chado from Bleach. I like my Hitachi HD Video Projector Which shoots out about well over 150' screen. can't beat that when playing games.

Unless you have a very expensive projector that can give you a fantastic picture even under daylight conditions which costs around over $2000 then its good.

However in many cases LCD's tend to be better in all lighting conditions and offer better picture quality and clarity for their current pricing.

[Kaiser Mitsu]

Yes LCD's are a lil better in viewing but they also suffer from poor viewing angles. Anyone with a laptop try to wiew your screen from an angle it dosnt work to well. But yes LCD arnt to bad for there current price

[SuperSaiyan4]

Yes LCD's are a lil better in viewing but they also suffer from poor viewing angles. Anyone with a laptop try to wiew your screen from an angle it dosnt work to well. But yes LCD arnt to bad for there current price

That's completely incorrect, you have your televisions mixed up.

The only screens to have poor viewing angles are the big huge rear projection televisions along with projectors.

Why would you even compare a laptop screen to an actual television??? :eek:

[namloco]

well, I think she's comparing Lcd screen pc's and tv lcd screens...which are the same in reguards to looks....BUT if were talking a screen for gaming, a nice lcd monitor with a fast ms and good contrast is best. BUT if you just want a tv for watch'en desperate housewifes I have a plasma and you can view that thing from every angle in clarity!!!! runs more electric though then an LCD would. plus you ever notice bigscreen LCD are more expensive then big screen plasma's??? wonder why??? less electric?? hmm.. or better picture....or just more expensive to make at that size??? anyhow The pic on my plasma is perfect and well distrubuted, I have a lcd too and that color is crazy good also but at a higher or lower or side angle the brightness of that color differs,,,thanks for letting me put my 2 cents in....Namy

[Kaiser Mitsu]

That's completely incorrect, you have your televisions mixed up.

The only screens to have poor viewing angles are the big huge rear projection televisions along with projectors.

Why would you even compare a laptop screen to an actual television??? :eek:

Not trying to be mean but no im not incorrect, And im not mixing my TVs up. And i was comparing a LCD Laptop Monitor to a LCD TV because there are both LCD and I have both an LCD Tv and a Laptop. What I meant was that if you look from to extreme of an angle with a LCD you start to lose color and clarity.

The reasont that I said to look at a Laptop Monitor is because it is the same LCD if you look at an angle your start to get a Negative Image effect.

Example: TV-| \ -You = Starting to lose clarity and color

I would recomend this (http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage.jsp?skuId=7706921&type=product&productCategoryId=pcmcat95100050007&id=1138085846523) TV, Or something along those lines. What your going to be looking for is something in the 20-29in Range for the best picture. Your also going to want to look for something with a resoultion of 1080i for the best picture with at least Componet inputs, and for the best picture with HDMI inputs.

I have a lcd too and that color is crazy good also but at a higher or lower or side angle the brightness of that color differs

Oh and by the by im not a she:nono: :)

[asphix]

Ermm.. I didnt read a lot of the posts in this thread since I'm impatient. I just wnat to point out that for gaming, LCD, Rear projection or overhead projection is the way to go in the HD arena. Plasma look great but they have burn-in issues which dont meld well with long gaming sessions and sport fans in particular.

Rip pretty much had the right of things. I would recommend, for an LCD on a budget, to look at sets from Westinghouse. Just realize that the cheaper the set, the cheaper the materials used in it.. while the specs can be great (8ms, contrast ratios.. etc etc) a lot fo the times they will go cheap on the signal processing chips and such.. which is why the cheaper lines of HDTV's display SDTV horribly. If you're using this TV primarily for DVDs (using an upscaling DVD player) and HD gaming you wouldnt notice the shortfalls.

Again, if you're on a budget you really have no choice.. but its important to be aware of where costs are being trimmed in order to offer that TV at bargain prices. Nothing is for free, in order to save money sacrifices are made somewhere.

[Rip]

Asphix, ironically enough westinghouse has gotten fairly poor reviews recently for their panels, while they aren't terrible and definitely on the inexpensive side, i would have a bit of trouble recommending them to people. Often the actual manufacturer is irrelevant (i.e. Westinghouse went under a long time ago, its just the name now being used), what you really want to find out is who is making the LCD panels on them. The one I got was made by LG for example, although the brand was completely different. In terms of SDTV you do indeed want to take a look at that, the integrated tuner may not be great for your standard analog braodcasts. In my area for exapmle, we get a fair bit of ghosting on our analog signal, but the digital one is beautiful. That became only more clear on our new TV, but since the analog stations we ever watch also have a digital one so its not a big deal anyway.

A few other misconceptions - Plasmas are indeed much better than they used to be, and they are cheaper than LCD TVs once you get into the 40" + size. (Its hard to find smaller plasmas). As for lasting longer, they still aren't quite there yet. LCD TVs look like they're lasting around the same as your old school CRT ones, in terms of repair rates at least. But plasmas you can expect to last you 5-10 years but not much further out than that.

And what you'd really like, but probably don't konw, is an SED display. You're probably thinking, wtf is Rip doing, pulling our legs? Nah, SED is actually really cool stuff, was a pretty big thing last CES, but hasn't seen much gain since then. Hopefully it will be on the market in the future. With current CRT technology you have an electron emitter whose particles 'steered' to the front screen. In an SED you have 3 tiny electron emitters per pixel, to make up your RGB display. This leads to millions of electron emitters, but the difference is that you don't need any of the distance to scan the beam across the screen. The result? Very thin TVs (think LCD TV Thickness), exceptionally long lifespans, potentially very high resolutions, contrast ratios in the 10,000 to 1 range - no side effects of brightness decay like plasma, oh and the best part - response times are less than 1ms. But hey star trek fans, don't expect to afford any in the near future, at least a few years till it makes it to market, and companies know that even when it does they can charge an arm and a leg for them while still making money off of the current TV types. Only competition will determine how fast prices drop once the market finally sees these. (Sorry my info may be somewhat old here since i haven't been actively searching for these guys since early this year, so feel free to correct me if i'm wrong)

[SuperSaiyan4]

Not trying to be mean but no im not incorrect, And im not mixing my TVs up. And i was comparing a LCD Laptop Monitor to a LCD TV because there are both LCD and I have both an LCD Tv and a Laptop. What I meant was that if you look from to extreme of an angle with a LCD you start to lose color and clarity.

The reasont that I said to look at a Laptop Monitor is because it is the same LCD if you look at an angle your start to get a Negative Image effect.

Example: TV-| \ -You = Starting to lose clarity and color

I would recomend this (http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage.jsp?skuId=7706921&type=product&productCategoryId=pcmcat95100050007&id=1138085846523) TV, Or something along those lines. What your going to be looking for is something in the 20-29in Range for the best picture. Your also going to want to look for something with a resoultion of 1080i for the best picture with at least Componet inputs, and for the best picture with HDMI inputs.



Oh and by the by im not a she:nono: :)

Nope you are still wrong...Its like saying a CRT PC monitor is the same as a CRT Television both use the cathode ray tube but their onscreen displays are very very different.

LCD in laptops uses the liquid crystal display technology but their visual displays are still very different and cannot be compared.

I have an LCD 40inch Samsung R74 and have looked at it from a side angle view now not that it would make sense to be watching it at angle I dont lose any clarity at all it is because laptop screens technology is different to actual LCD televisions.

Quote: would recomend this (http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage.jsp?skuId=7706921&type=product&productCategoryId=pcmcat95100050007&id=1138085846523) TV, Or something along those lines. What your going to be looking for is something in the 20-29in Range for the best picture. Your also going to want to look for something with a resoultion of 1080i for the best picture with at least Componet inputs, and for the best picture with HDMI inputs.

Wrong again, why would you be looking for something with 1080i for best picture? Unless you have a 40inch or bigger screen then you will see a minor difference from 720p to 1080i and again a small difference to 1080p. On top of that if your screen is naitive 1080 then you will see a bit more difference.

For gaming 720p is the best as it runs at 60fps but since many games are only 30fps its probably best to put it on 1080i/p for an improved picture.

HDMI does not give a better picture quality, nowhere is this a proven fact, Component and HDMI both carry the same HD signal, Component is analogue and HDMI is digital that is the only difference.

Oh and OLED is out in Jan/Feb time 2007 made by Samsung 40inch display and is only 3cm thick.

http://www.fayerwayer.com/2005/05/samsung_oled_40.jpg

http://www.samsung.com/PressCenter/PressRelease/PressRelease.asp?seq=20050523_0000124045

[Kaiser Mitsu]

Wrong again, why would you be looking for something with 1080i for best picture? Unless you have a 40inch or bigger screen then you will see a minor difference from 720p to 1080i and again a small difference to 1080p. On top of that if your screen is naitive 1080 then you will see a bit more difference.

For gaming 720p is the best as it runs at 60fps but since many games are only 30fps its probably best to put it on 1080i/p for an improved picture.

HDMI does not give a better picture quality, nowhere is this a proven fact, Component and HDMI both carry the same HD signal, Component is analogue and HDMI is digital that is the only difference.

Ok wait, so your saying that I dont want to use 1080i unless I have a 40in or bigger screen, yet in your very next sentance you say that 1080i/p will give you a better picture? And yes HDMI will give you a better picture because its what Digital. Which is proven better then analouge. Just like your digital cable signal is loads better in quality the your analouge.

But we are going off topic, so if you want to further discuss this, fell free to PM me.

[SuperSaiyan4]

Ok wait, so your saying that I dont want to use 1080i unless I have a 40in or bigger screen, yet in your very next sentance you say that 1080i/p will give you a better picture? And yes HDMI will give you a better picture because its what Digital. Which is proven better then analouge. Just like your digital cable signal is loads better in quality the your analouge.

But we are going off topic, so if you want to further discuss this, fell free to PM me.

If you re-read it says 'improved picture' yes however if you go back to my comments a few lines up you must also remember I said 40inch or higher...

I have to laugh on the HDMI is better because it is digital, have you seen a HDMI vs Component picture contest? If there was a difference don't you think all the techy's out there would have made some major annoucements on the differences forcing say Microsoft to include a HDMI cable? No.

In context digital is always better but in this case for HDMI and Component whereby they both carry the same data but in different ways it has not been said that HDMI is better than Component.

This isn't going off topic since if someone is looking for a new television I am sure they want to be correctly informed so at least they can go about they go with a clear mind on knowing exactly what they want rather than having the wrong info in their head and made look silly.

[Kaiser Mitsu]

You did say improved picture didnt specify in the same sentence that it had to be 40in or bigger. To go back to my original saying I said that you need to look for a TV with at least Component cables, and for a better picture to use HDMI if the application calls for it.

I did a lil reaserching (SP) on the internet and I came accross this (http://forum.ecoustics.com/bbs/messages/34579/122868.html) article. It stats that HDMI will be better in certain applications and also Componets will be better in certain applications. It stats to give it a try in both you dont know which will be better. So me and you are basically spliting hairs. I can suggest one thing you can suggest another which is better depends.

[SuperSaiyan4]

You did say improved picture didnt specify in the same sentence that it had to be 40in or bigger. To go back to my original saying I said that you need to look for a TV with at least Component cables, and for a better picture to use HDMI if the application calls for it.

I did a lil reaserching (SP) on the internet and I came accross this (http://forum.ecoustics.com/bbs/messages/34579/122868.html) article. It stats that HDMI will be better in certain applications and also Componets will be better in certain applications. It stats to give it a try in both you dont know which will be better. So me and you are basically spliting hairs. I can suggest one thing you can suggest another which is better depends.

Nice find and no I am not the one splitting hairs, if you look a couple of posts above you clearly said HDMI is better because its digital, that is where I corrected you as that is not the case.

Then you posted that link which is a finding of one person who gives a very good well written review of the different connection types but since I didnt say Component was better than HDMI I am still not in the wrong.

Anyways good research and that's what should have been done in the beginning ;) so thanks for proving me right.

[Kaiser Mitsu]

Technically we are both correct, because In certain cases HDMI is better and in Certain cases Componet is better so we are both correct.

[SuperSaiyan4]

Technically we are both correct, because In certain cases HDMI is better and in Certain cases Componet is better so we are both correct.

Nope. Try re-reading what you said and then read what I wrote, then try reading that link you posted again.

Ok lesson for today, I want you to compare Interlacing with Progressive and do a comparison and then comparing a technical spec of 1080i and 1080p and their differences.:)

[Kaiser Mitsu]

But you also said that nether is better. I did say that HDMI is better which is infact true in certain situations. Also in certain situations Componet is better.

Here (http://www.canopus.com/canopus/technology/progressivevsinterlaced.php) is the link that explains Interlaced vs Progresive

[Chocopolka]

I'm confused:

Does the status of being ''HD-ready'' affect gaming in anyway, or does it only affect TV shows. Also, where can I found out whether or not something is ''HD-ready'', will it say on the box?

What does it mean for the native to ''xxxp/i''? Does it mean it will always play at that?

How do I find out what xMS it is? Box?

And...what do you guys think about these LCD HDTVs?

http://reviews.cnet.com/Sony_KDL_40S2000/4505-6482_7-31694889.html?tag=pdtl-list&ar=o
(not for gaming, just to watch movies and cable tv)

http://reviews.cnet.com/Vizio_L37HDTV/4505-6482_7-31623163.html?tag=pdtl-list
(for 360, I don't really care about watching cable tv on this. Oh and, it says it has HDMI and VGA, but can I still play my 360 on it w/o HDMI or VGA? I got the wires that came from the premium 360.

http://reviews.cnet.com/Vizio_L32HDTV/4505-6482_7-31661373.html?tag=pdtl-list
(for 360, same as above but smaller)

If you guys got other suggestions for other TVs, feel free, but the thing is that where I live(Guam) there isn't a wide array of TV's to choose from. Theres some Samsung(I've heard these lag the most,is this true?), Philips, Hitachi(only one store here sells Hitachi, and two sell both), Vizio, and some Sonys.

[SuperSaiyan4]

Samsung and Sony are the 2 best makes as they both use the same panel made in the same factory which is S-PVA currently the best panel available.

For a HDTV look for the sign that says it is HD Ready also make sure it has at least Component and VGA, HDMI is pretty much a standard on all HDTV's but is a connection you will probably only use if you buy a PS3 or a stand alone HD-DVD player made by Toshiba or a blu-ray player made by Samsung.

At present the Xbox 360 does not support HDMI.

I would say for features and value and picture quality and the company that now out does Sony 5:1 especially in profits and overall market share of electronics is Samsung.

R74 series which is now kinda being replaced buy yet another model the N7 series I believe are the best screens for value and specifications.

Also when looking for a HDTV if you want naitive 720 then look for 1280x720 resolution or 1366x768 this is 720p but can also do 1080i.

For 1080p the end number is 1080 e.g. 1280x1080 this is naitive 1080i and 1080p but can also do 720p.

For gaming 720p is best and 1080i and 1080p for movies however you probably wont notice a drop in frames by opting for 1080i/1080p for games if your HDTV supports it but it does offer a bit better picture as the resolution is higher.

When buying a HDTV also look for as mentioned MS the seek time 8ms or lower is superb, 12ms is ok but look for 8ms or lower as you are less likely or in my case with my R74 get NO ghosting at all.

[H2O PriMeY]

I don't know, my CRT HD TV is pretty darn sexy. Especially with my 360. :D

My 20 inch CRT non HDTV with no 360, will pwn you all.

kthnx.

:D

[Iris]

My tv is in my room gathering dust since i haven't watched it in....forever....It's cute though :) it has a controller and everything! NO JOKE! hehe

[suZe PMS]

lol tv? whats that? i spend too much time at work and busy doing other things that i dont have time to watch tv... :P

[Iris]

It's a box that holds spongebob.

[Chocopolka]

Best TV of all time :)

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v228/NobodyHome/easr.jpg

:rolleyes: