Twin Brother/ Twin Sister

[H2O Taytos]

I would like to introduce a new problem/idea into the PMS/H20 community. Me and a good friend were recruited into the clan at the same date and time. We would like to be H2O brothers but we cannot be big/little brothers of each other. I would like to ask the community to consider the idea of twin brothers/sisters.
I think this is a great idea because it would give people who are close friends and "brother-like" a chance to be "brothers." Thank you for taking the time to read this and considering this as a program in the PMS/H2O community.

[H2O Spektre]

I think this sounds like a great idea. Couple of my friends are recruiting and we're like brothers too.

[PMS Alpha Sidtauri]

I like it! A friend of mine and I recruited at exactly the same time, too. I would love to have her as my Twin. :D

[PMS Kawaii]

What a great initative! Hope it goes through :D

[H2O Taytos]

Thanks for the vouches guys, hopefully more people will have good input on this.

[PMS origins]

I would love this! ^_^

[H2O Turkey]

This would be pretty neat!

[Dark-Symmetry]

I like it! A friend of mine and I recruited at exactly the same time, too. I would love to have her as my Twin. :D

I was thinking the same thing ^_^ :mvsuprisehug:

[Jump Guy H2O]

I wont knock the idea because sometimes people are just assigned a big brother or sister but never play with them. The purpose of assigning someone that's already in the division is to help educate new recruits in everything PMS|H2O, as well as provide an immediate friend to help them transition into their chosen division. If your brother or sister was someone that was recruiting with you they wouldn't be able to help you with that as well as someone that has actually been in the clan for a while. I do slightly see where you are coming from though.

[esgeeone]

I would agree with Jump Guy. Normally, when you are recruiting into the clan recruits will pick an elder sibling/be assigned one to help ease them into the division. To help out with the rules and hopefully provide an immediate friend to the new recruit. What I see a lot of people do is once they become members someone who is their friend who was a fellow recruit or another member they meet after their recruitment is done they will then take them as an elder/younger sibling.
But, I think your idea is a good one! It would be sorta like the PMS|H2O Bond but rather than a H2O taking a PMS member or vice versa it would be like the H2O members best friend within H2O or vice versa.

[Blue Rose PMS]

Let me ask this...why does a friendship need a title. It would be more administrative work than anything. We don't recognize siblings of the opposite sex but there is nothing stopping an H2O from calling another guy his brother or a PMS calling another her sister.

[H2O Taytos]

the same reasons relationships need to be facebook official

[PMS origins]

the same reasons relationships need to be facebook official

I don't think an answer like that will be convincing enough for it to happen. :\

[H2O Taytos]

on a more serious note, why do we need to make little brothers and big brothers official? or even pms/h2o relationships official?

[PMS origins]

I think that the bond creates a welcoming and friendly environment.
It is a status symbol and people like to give and have them to feel special. :D

The PMS|H2O bond is explained in the handbook.
None of these "relationships" are required.

I think that the idea of a twin bother/sister appeals because according to the rules (as I see it and have been told) once you are out of recruitment you cannot take on another Big sibling and you will take on a Little after.

It is important for recruits to have a bond with other recruits though, someone they can relate to on an immediate level as far as their recruitment. Sometimes it is hard to pair up and Big&Little due to personalities and times they are on, etc. And even having someone in the same boat can be very helpful and build a strong bond.

[H2O Obsidian]

Sounds like a good idea to me

[AlmightyMoa PMS]

You could always put it in your signature... I mean we don't recognize the Big|Little Sister|Brother on the forums for others too see, I put my sisters in my signature.

Edit: I don't think a title of any kind will show my love and respect for them.

[PMS origins]

You could always put it in your signature... I mean we don't recognize the Big|Little Sister|Brother on the forums for others too see, I put my sisters in my signature...

:mvagree:

[H2O Taytos]

I think if me (as creator of this idea) and the leaders of PMS/H2O could get into a party of some sort to discuss this then that would be kool.

[Punk Muffin PMS]

I guess one question I would have (and I realize I'm not a clan leader), but what would the benefit be of having a twin sibling?

I can see the benefit of having a Big/Lil Sibling...when you're new it helps to have someone who knows the recruitment ropes, be there through recruitment.

But I just can't see a huge benefit to having a twin. For instance, LinkSmash, my co-leader. I could call her one of my siblings, and she is. For the fact that we're leaders one, but another just cause we get along so well, we mesh well. We're there for each other when we need. But we don't need to have a separate title to be friends. I can think of a few people that I absolute love and don't need to have a title.

It's the same thing as the PMS|H2O bond. The love of my life is a former H2O. Does that mean he can't have the same level of closeness to me now because he can't have Punk Muffin's H2O on his profile? I mean, we game together as often as we can, but how is it any different because I'm still a clan member and he's not? He still supports me in all I do and has been there for the joys, smiles, and tears I've put into this clan. But I simply don't have to have him be a member of this clan for him to support me. (Even if I still want him to be.)

And what Blue said...It'd be a ton of admin work.
Please don't take my post as snarky. Reading this post to myself as I'm typing I know it sounds aggressive, and I don't mean it at all that way. I simply don't have a better way to put it.

[H2O Taytos]

I guess one question I would have (and I realize I'm not a clan leader), but what would the benefit be of having a twin sibling?

I can see the benefit of having a Big/Lil Sibling...when you're new it helps to have someone who knows the recruitment ropes, be there through recruitment.



well a twin would be alike someone who you can count on, someone that is going through the same recruitment that you are so if one needs help you always have a twin to pull through and see YOUR side of the story in the saame perspective

[H2O Major Pain]

still sounds like a big bro/sis thing to me

[Jump Guy H2O]

well a twin would be alike someone who you can count on, someone that is going through the same recruitment that you are so if one needs help you always have a twin to pull through and see YOUR side of the story in the saame perspective

You can count on a big bro, they did go through recruitment like you are now not to mention they know what comes afterwards unlike a twin would, a big bro would try to help you though almost anything, and they'd be your friend so of course they'd be willing to see your side of things in any situation. Just because it wouldn't be acknowledged on paper doesn't mean you can't call your recruitment friend bro. Who are we to stop you?

[H2O Taytos]

exactly but why do we have to make big bros and little bros official? if they r the same thing...

[PMS origins]

I guess one question I would have (and I realize I'm not a clan leader), but what would the benefit be of having a twin sibling?

I can see the benefit of having a Big/Lil Sibling...when you're new it helps to have someone who knows the recruitment ropes, be there through recruitment.

But I just can't see a huge benefit to having a twin. For instance, LinkSmash, my co-leader. I could call her one of my siblings, and she is. For the fact that we're leaders one, but another just cause we get along so well, we mesh well. We're there for each other when we need. But we don't need to have a separate title to be friends. I can think of a few people that I absolute love and don't need to have a title.

It's the same thing as the PMS|H2O bond. The love of my life is a former H2O. Does that mean he can't have the same level of closeness to me now because he can't have Punk Muffin's H2O on his profile? I mean, we game together as often as we can, but how is it any different because I'm still a clan member and he's not? He still supports me in all I do and has been there for the joys, smiles, and tears I've put into this clan. But I simply don't have to have him be a member of this clan for him to support me. (Even if I still want him to be.)

And what Blue said...It'd be a ton of admin work.
Please don't take my post as snarky. Reading this post to myself as I'm typing I know it sounds aggressive, and I don't mean it at all that way. I simply don't have a better way to put it.



:mvagree:

[H2O Taytos]

ok im going to try to answer all the questions so far...
Twin brothers is equally as purposefull as big and little brothers. If it was made it would be for people who were recruited on the same day to be brothers. When people say that I can do this and have it be unofficial, then you could also have it so no little brother and big brothers are unoffical as well since they have the same purpose just a different view.
So saying "You can still have a twin brother without it being offical" is kind of like saying "big/little brothers/sisters should eb unofficial."
I think this should be voted on by the community or a higher council (with me there to help explain them my view in a more in depth point of view) and set up depending on the votes and people ideas.

[PMS Kawaii]

As Jumpguy said.. You and a recruit, can just call each other what you want? If you want to call him a twinbrother that shouldnt be a problem, if what jumpguy said was correct "who are we to decide" .. It might not go through as a "rule", but this doesnt mean you cant still call him your brother if you want to.. The title isnt really important, its the bond you share that is important.. Lil/big bros and sisters, dont get along because of the title, they do just because they do :p


Correct me if I am wrong please :p

[H2O ModernJunglist]

the big bro/lil bro is an icebreaker in which everyone can participate in, this clan is about open participation, this twin brother deal keeps every person who has already completed recruitment ineligible, and as we all keep telling you, it's more administrative work that no one cares to deal with....

[H2O Taytos]

OK... well thanks for concidering guys. Im pretty sure its not going to pass, but I guess it's cool I brought the idea into the community.
Im usually coming up with cool ideas a lot when im in gaming communities so look forward to my next ones. :)

[KTNPWNS PMS]

I agree because I would have PMS Doc as my twin because we joined on the same date and we're like besties

[PMS Doc]

I like the idea, as KTN said we'd totally be twinsies...but..I just dont see it as beneficial like the Big Sister/ Big Brother program.

You have to understand that with anything that is implemented there is a whole back end of things that need to happen in terms of implementing the program, setting up rules, logging who is who and it's just a big hassle to do for something that, to me at least, seems more of a luxury than a necessity


When people say that I can do this and have it be unofficial, then you could also have it so no little brother and big brothers are unoffical as well since they have the same purpose just a different view.


I definitely understand where you are coming from but there is a very big difference between what you are proposing and the Big/Little sister/brother program. They don't serve the same purpose because one operates as more like the PMS|H2O bond system but between PMS' or H2O's only, while the other is a system set up to help guide new members through the clan and give them someone to go to if they need it. Someone who has been here longer will have answers to questions that someone who has been here the exact same time as you might not know.

I get it, trust me I do... (<3 KTN) but I just dont see it as beneficial enough to warrant the work that will have to be done to get it off the ground.
Good Idea though.

[PMS Acey]

This isn't on the topic of "twins" but I've always thought of the more reserved or shy/quiet recruits. As everyone who we meet is great,sometimes (I used to be like this) the shyness overcomes the ability to socialize. Usually those are the ones who have a bit of a hard time getting to know a PMS or H2O who can become a potential big brother or sister. And then getting assigned one, as they may still be there for help when needed,which is great cause its mostly the purpose, sometimes the personalities just don't click, and as someone stated earlier, they might even rarely play with each other. :/