H2o Cs 1.6

[Nokarot]

Who's interested? Who would actually want to show up for in-depth practices on a dayly and nightly basis. I'm serious about this, no "cal-o 4 lyfe!" or "#findscrim ladder", but an actual 110% attempt at going pro.

I'm hoping for people who are actually serious to show interest, though, not the casual player who will show up once a week and expect recognition. If you're interested, or have any ideas, here would be where to do it.. and if theres enough interest, maybe we'll be able to put something together.

This is nothing set in stone right now, just getting a body count.

[Jumper PMS]

I know my h2o wants to do it, I talked to him about it. But he still is computer-less for the time being.

[Iris]

Where can I buy CS 1.6?

[Nokarot]

Through the Steam Shop.. should come in a bundle with Condition Zero for $10 maybe.

[Iris]

ahh, could you buy it at like best buy or frys?

[Nokarot]

I dont think so. Note that Counterstrike 1.6 is 5+ years old.

You can buy Counterstrike SOURCE over at Best buy, though. In which case, if you were to do that, you'd probably want to talk to Silentcid.

Regardless of which one you buy, unless you dont have a credit card, its a lot easier to buy it and download it through Steam.



Also, for safety sake, if you dont have any idea what the difference between 1.6 and Source is, or you dont know what Steam is, it's probably too late to try to compete in it. The games getting old and its only a matter of time until another takes over. Even if thats years from now, it'll take years to master.

[Iris]

i know what they both are i was just wondering if i could go buy it, lol, and yes, i know the difference between source and 1.6. I wasn't planning on competing for it i do quake 4, but thanks!

[Nokarot]

Sorry, was just including that last tidbit for clarification purposes. Many times have people asked me the same thing and thought they'd get in to competitive CS 5 seconds after buying the game, without having the slighest clue as to whats happening.

[PMS Saphira]

http://www.gamestop.com/product.asp?product%5Fid=646345
http://steampowered.com/v/index.php?area=game&AppId=10&

GameStop still sells 1.6 as part of the Counter Strike 1 Anthology for $19.99, and I've seen it in other retail stores as well. Steam has the same price if you want Condition Zero as well, but it also sells 1.6 alone for $9.99

[Iris]

It's okay, I didn't take offense to it, lol. Yeah I had my dad go look for it yesterday. I saw Anthology. I have Source and I love it but I want to do the 1.6 division in pms. Thanks guys!! <3

[PMS Saphira]

Darn, I didn't know you had Source :( I'm in PMS and I play Source, and so do all the guys. I won't touch 1.6 personally, although it's what most of the other women seem to prefer these days. If you ever want to play Source, then add my xfire: 0strabo0.

[IXI GothiK IXI]

hmmm..iv always heard about this game but never tried it. The xbox version was horrible. But iv heard its wonders different on PC..

[Iris]

yeah my little sister bought the xbox version and it was pretty crappy. Yeah i love source I will totally add you! I haven't played 1.6 for but a minuet at a LAN because someone left a computer unattended, lol.

[IXI GothiK IXI]

im going to get flamed for this but oh well. But would someone explain the difference between 1.6 and Source?

[Nokarot]

1.6 is based off the Half Life 1 Engine, and Source is based off the Half Life 2 Engine.

Aside from Source being prettier, there are also a lot of in-game differences- although in the end, regardless of which one you're playing, you're still playing Counterstrike. Some maps also changed, but again, they are still basically the same maps.. just revamped (Like a super hero changing his costume).

Source decided to change a lot more things rather then the graphics, though.. Things like smoke grenades, flashbangs, grenade physics in general (due to ragdoll physics), spray patterns, netcode, the way servers are set up, etc etc.. Theres a laundry list of changes that very much differ the gameplay between 1.6 and Source.

And thats basically it.. if you're asking why the majority of people play the uglier game, its just the one currently better fit for competition in the eyes of the high-end professional leagues and their sponsers. But source is still definately fun.

[Good Friend Mike]

hey i would be down with getting in that im not that good yet but i play all the time now

[CYNiK]

im up for it nok..but im still computerless.=(
I HATE ASUS

[Nokarot]

If I was computerless for as long as you've been I dont know if I would have made it this far.

[CYNiK]

lol well i mean,
i have a virus in one computer
the other one is sacred (moms computer) which i use to post and AIM and Xfire on.
and the 666DEVIL666 one, which is the one im currently building, that does not want to give me a video signal..
so yeah..
I WILL SURVIVE!!!!

[H2OSilentCid]

im up for it nok..but im still computerless.=(
I HATE ASUS

Are you talking about your motherboard because it's not it's fault that you have a virus.

[Jumper PMS]

Are you talking about your motherboard because it's not it's fault that you have a virus.

he has two comps... one with a virus and one he's building and has tried 2 motherboards on but cant get a vid signal..

[Nokarot]

Might be the video card then if it failed on 2 different motherboards :x.

[Jumper PMS]

so he fixed his comp, but had to pay someone a buttload to do it and now has to send back his memory so he can pay the guy back. lol..

I hate his computer :p

[CYNiK]

i got it to work now w00t.
w00t
im going to sell my computer though someday.

[Nokarot]

Impatience struck and I joined up with a local DC clan which I've been playing with for the last few weeks. Sorry to those I've let down in doing this, it was just the quickest choice to keeping me sane. However, I'll still gladly ring and scrim and do everything I've already been doing.

[Pencilposer]

I am feeling this, as long as this is still looking for people who are interested.

[PMS Rain]

Also, for safety sake, if you dont have any idea what the difference between 1.6 and Source is, or you dont know what Steam is, it's probably too late to try to compete in it. The games getting old and its only a matter of time until another takes over. Even if thats years from now, it'll take years to master.

I have to disagree with this post. Although a new player to 1.6 may not "master" it, (which I still think is possible) it should still be played. I have only played 1.6 for a few days, but discouraging playing 1.6 is WRONG. Considering how 1.6 is much more difficult than Source, the challenge makes you a better player. You need to consider things like the lack of recoil in Source. If you can hit someone in the head in 1.6 with the rough recoil and spread, you DEFFINATELY can in Source. If I stayed in Source and waited for the girls to leave 1.6, I would be WAY further behind them. Instead I got 1.6 and am playing with them. I feel that starting with 1.6 gives much more potential at developing some skill for the later of the 2. I get my *** kicked in 1.6 but I still say this.

(Omg Jumper look what you did to me you made me an advocate for 1.6 Gahh!!)

[H2O.Merciless]

I would like to join the division, problem is I work from 2-10:30, so that would be a problem. Oh, there is a beta out for CSS something about weapon changes, I don't know

[H2OSilentCid]

I have to disagree with this post. Although a new player to 1.6 may not "master" it, (which I still think is possible) it should still be played. I have only played 1.6 for a few days, but discouraging playing 1.6 is WRONG. Considering how 1.6 is much more difficult than Source, the challenge makes you a better player. You need to consider things like the lack of recoil in Source. If you can hit someone in the head in 1.6 with the rough recoil and spread, you DEFFINATELY can in Source. If I stayed in Source and waited for the girls to leave 1.6, I would be WAY further behind them. Instead I got 1.6 and am playing with them. I feel that starting with 1.6 gives much more potential at developing some skill for the later of the 2. I get my *** kicked in 1.6 but I still say this.

(Omg Jumper look what you did to me you made me an advocate for 1.6 Gahh!!)

Actually I totally have to disagree with you, there is recoil in Source.

[Iris]

I played cs 1.6 for the first time since I bought it (I didn't play because Twin brought up starting a quake division (w00t)) and it's cool! I like it. There is a lot more recoil in 1.6 but I like it...just thought I would tell you guys... :D

[PMS Rain]

thanks Iris

[Iris]

:D lol for what?

Ahh the recoil thing. yeah, um there is some recoil in Source but there is a lot more in 1.6

[Pencilposer]

I don't know, I like the recoil in 1.6, it makes it harder to just spray your gun.

[Stardust]

1.6 is definately harder. I like it so much more than source now because of the challenge. It is fun to go back to source occasionally after playing 1.6 and just run around and spray everything and dominate because the res is soo bad. I also love that you can shoot through certain things in 1.6 also makes it tougher to hide and resist fire.

[Nokarot]

Mmm.. Generally 1.6 vs. Source conversations end up in arguements based on opinions over facts. The fact is that people play one or the other based on their personal preference, not because one is "easier" or "more of a challenge". The gameplay differences and graphical backing determine which game people want to play.

1.6 - Older Graphics, Shoot through walls, smoke grenades ploom instantly.
Source - Higher Graphics, features that come with the newer engine (ragdoll physics, moveable objects), can only shoot through doors/boxes, smoke grenades that take ~5 seconds to ploom.

A few minor gameplay differences on top of those, but really, between the 2 games, there isn't an "easy mode" and a "hard mode".. theres just "the mode you're used to". Even though 1.6 has a higher recoil rate then Source does, that doesn't make Source easier.. you still have to control your weapon different then you would in 1.6, and adapt to the other game. If you try to control your recoil in Source like you would for 1.6, you'll likely fail..

Anyway, bottom line is, to each their own.. 1 game isn't easier, harder, better or worse then the other, its just a matter of personal preference. My personal preference lies within 1.6, because I favor the origional gameplay style over the differences that Source introduced.. but I still think Source is a solid game.

[Pencilposer]

I will say this about source. I prefer to play iceworld there, its just more fun with the bigger gun selection there.

[Iris]

I don't play much at all so I guess I'm out of this discussion, lol :D

[Pencilposer]

I think the discussion has died on its own.

[[NiYE] bloodshoteyes]

Mmm.. Generally 1.6 vs. Source conversations end up in arguements based on opinions over facts. The fact is that people play one or the other based on their personal preference, not because one is "easier" or "more of a challenge". The gameplay differences and graphical backing determine which game people want to play.

1.6 - Older Graphics, Shoot through walls, smoke grenades ploom instantly.
Source - Higher Graphics, features that come with the newer engine (ragdoll physics, moveable objects), can only shoot through doors/boxes, smoke grenades that take ~5 seconds to ploom.

A few minor gameplay differences on top of those, but really, between the 2 games, there isn't an "easy mode" and a "hard mode".. theres just "the mode you're used to". Even though 1.6 has a higher recoil rate then Source does, that doesn't make Source easier.. you still have to control your weapon different then you would in 1.6, and adapt to the other game. If you try to control your recoil in Source like you would for 1.6, you'll likely fail..

Anyway, bottom line is, to each their own.. 1 game isn't easier, harder, better or worse then the other, its just a matter of personal preference. My personal preference lies within 1.6, because I favor the origional gameplay style over the differences that Source introduced.. but I still think Source is a solid game.

*claps for you* thank you! This is true, you'll get used to one, then the other. I played 1.5 and when the switch came to steam and 1.6 we all had to adjust (minor differences so nothing like 1.6 to source). When source came out i switched, and right away guess what, i sucked. It takes a while to get used to it, and if i went back and started play 1.6 today, i know right now that id be nothing like what i was. Oh and you can shoot though more then doors and boxes in source... dmg reduction is just greater. (through walls at short A in dust2, trees, any thin metal like vents, the only things iv ever noticed iv been unable to shoot though in css are things that u shouldn't be able to... b\c it wouldn't work in rl...) i loved 1.5, i loved 1.6, and now i love source, they were all great and i aggree, to each his\her own. :)

[Anx]

If i can get a trial etc and if i get in i'll have a go, 111% of me is in:tomato:

[Sexy McDoomington]

1.6 is a dead game, and Valve/Steam is soon dropping support for it. However you can download Steam here (it is free)
www.steampowered.com

CS 1.6 is just called "Counter Strike" on the games list, and it goes for $9.99 I think. But you are better off buying Counter Strike: Source.

[Nokarot]

If they were dropping support of it, they wouldn't have just patched in-game ads in to it, and revealed plans to upgrade the voice communication system.

It lost its TV lisense. Thats all. Unless you're a CAL-I Pro and trying to get sponsered and contracted by DirectTV (and nobody in this forum should be worrying about that), then changing to Source isn't a great idea, unless you like source better.. but saying that the game is dieing or losing support is a false reason to switch.

[Jumper PMS]

*agrees with nok*

all the major tournaments will still have 1.6, they just won't be televised. and the only tourny that is really affected by this is CGI (DirectTv's tourny) so yeah! 1.6 will still be around for another year or two, or longer.

Look at Quake 3 :)

[Nokarot]

Well quake 3 is a bad comparison for many many many reasons but its still a good game nonetheless. :o