NFS ProStreet

[H2O.pry0r]

Anyone here play it? I just got it a couple days ago and just got my wheel controller today :mvboogie:

I'm going to be playing online now so if anyone wants to play send me a FR. GT: H2O pry0r

[H2O Commando]

YES! Come play with me now! But my mic is broken =( supposebly a division is supposed to be starting but I dunno the progress of that yet...

[H2O.pry0r]

I haven't even heard of a division yet O_O

I just have a few more race days to dominate in career mode to unlock my achievement and then I'll be online 24/7 >=]

[H2O Commando]

Ehh I couldn't care less about career I just use it to get money. Do you like to drift?

[H2O.pry0r]

I love it. I'm getting better and better at it every day.

[H2O Commando]

lol I'm one of the few people that enjoys drifting with challenging cars such as the Corolla. We should have a race!

[Gunner]

Ima big fan of Racing games from Burnout, forza, Midnight club, and NFS
but this was THE WORST ONE IF EVER PLAYED
im my opinion
no free roam, u do the same races on the same track on every raceday
but the drag races were a step up from carbon and most wanted
and u could hardly customize ur car
i mean wtf

[H2O Commando]

Well then you are an arcade racer. We are realism racers. Seriously I mean yeah it could use free roam but the whole cops/gangster look on NFS get's old. And this NFS has the MOST customization of ALL the NFS's. Every little detail is customizable so I don't know what you mean by it's hardly customizable. And yeah races are the same but that's in career in multiplayer you never know what you'll find. Obviously you didn't give this game a chance before you put it down. Besides you were probably in CASUAL mode, KING mode let's you get full realism from your car.

[H2O.pry0r]

Ima big fan of Racing games from Burnout, forza, Midnight club, and NFS
but this was THE WORST ONE IF EVER PLAYED
im my opinion
no free roam, u do the same races on the same track on every raceday
but the drag races were a step up from carbon and most wanted
and u could hardly customize ur car
i mean wtf

There's tons of customization options for each car. And if you haven't noticed, all the hardcore NFS fans HATED the illegal style racing found in Underground, Carbon, etc. ProStreet is much more like old school NFS, that's what it was meant to be like in the first place. And what's the big deal about not having free roam? This isn't a street racing game anymore, you race on tracks and that's it. Why would you want to roam around a track? If you really wanted though, use the practice option. And if you want a game to just drive a car through a city, go pick up GTA IV. You'll be driving around for hours. I personally think ProStreet did EXACTLY what it was meant to do, and that's be like the old school NFS games. The only thing that could be better is the physics engine. It'd be nice to see more realistic handling, but its good enough.

[H2O Commando]

There's tons of customization options for each car. And if you haven't noticed, all the hardcore NFS fans HATED the illegal style racing found in Underground, Carbon, etc. ProStreet is much more like old school NFS, that's what it was meant to be like in the first place. And what's the big deal about not having free roam? This isn't a street racing game anymore, you race on tracks and that's it. Why would you want to roam around a track? If you really wanted though, use the practice option. And if you want a game to just drive a car through a city, go pick up GTA IV. You'll be driving around for hours. I personally think ProStreet did EXACTLY what it was meant to do, and that's be like the old school NFS games. The only thing that could be better is the physics engine. It'd be nice to see more realistic handling, but its good enough.

THANK YOU! Reputation for you! But the only thing you were wrong about is the handling. Put it on King Mode and it's much better.

[H2O.pry0r]

THANK YOU! Reputation for you! But the only thing you were wrong about is the handling. Put it on King Mode and it's much better.
Even on king mode the cars still seem weird to me. I dunno, maybe I've played a bit too much of the Grid demo haha. If I had to give ProStreet a rating I'd give it 10/10. It's awesome.

[H2O Commando]

Yep! More rep for you! lol

[H2O Forester]

Ya my friend has it so i am going to try his before i think about buyin it.

[Gunner]

Well then you are an arcade racer. We are realism racers. Seriously I mean yeah it could use free roam but the whole cops/gangster look on NFS get's old. And this NFS has the MOST customization of ALL the NFS's. Every little detail is customizable so I don't know what you mean by it's hardly customizable. And yeah races are the same but that's in career in multiplayer you never know what you'll find. Obviously you didn't give this game a chance before you put it down. Besides you were probably in CASUAL mode, KING mode let's you get full realism from your car.

I play forza, and GT
i dont like free roam for the "cops/ganster" aspect i like bcuz it gives u something to do between races
and online was a joke in the begining, u had to wait until u got better cars
and i had to play this game for 3 day before i was done with the game 4 ever

[Gunner]

also how long ago is considered oldschool
cuz i've i owned all the NFS games since Hoy Pursuit 2

[Gunner]

and who ever gave me bad reputation bcuz of what i said in my opinion, which i stated that it was my OPINION, ur a jerk, i didn't insult u, i said some opinion based about a game.

[H2O Commando]

I play forza, and GT
i dont like free roam for the "cops/ganster" aspect i like bcuz it gives u something to do between races
and online was a joke in the begining, u had to wait until u got better cars
and i had to play this game for 3 day before i was done with the game 4 ever

That's how it should be. I don't want a total noob in my game that has no cars. I hated Forza the handling on all the cars is like driving a snowmobile without tracks. So basically you're saying you don't want a challenge you want all the best cars as soon as you open up the game.

[H2O Commando]

Ya my friend has it so i am going to try his before i think about buyin it.

Yep it's really good. Don't listen to Gunaria he barely even played it...

[Black Capone]

Anyone here play it? I just got it a couple days ago and just got my wheel controller today :mvboogie:

I'm going to be playing online now so if anyone wants to play send me a FR. GT: H2O pry0r



I HATE ProStreet. Going online is just sad. People are either getting 10K drifting a straight line, going faster than a 1000+hp Skyline in a 600hp RX-8, or they're doing a quarter mile in 5.49 using the Camaro glitch.


Carbon was better.


Forza was where the REAL circuit racing was held. It was meant for the people that are willing to spend countless hours tuning cars to do what you want them to do. Have you ever tuned a Porsche Carrera GT to drift in Forza? And I bet you won't see a 600hp RX-8 own the 1000hp beasts in Forza.

ProStreet tried to be something it wasn't: realistic. If you put a Camaro and a Skyline with the same capabilities side by side in a drag race, unless the Camaro's lighter, the Skyline would win because AWD has a better acceleration than a RWD.

[H2O Commando]

I HATE ProStreet. Going online is just sad. People are either getting 10K drifting a straight line, going faster than a 1000+hp Skyline in a 600hp RX-8, or they're doing a quarter mile in 5.49 using the Camaro glitch.


Carbon was better.


Forza was where the REAL circuit racing was held. It was meant for the people that are willing to spend countless hours tuning cars to do what you want them to do. Have you ever tuned a Porsche Carrera GT to drift in Forza? And I bet you won't see a 600hp RX-8 own the 1000hp beasts in Forza.

ProStreet tried to be something it wasn't: realistic. If you put a Camaro and a Skyline with the same capabilities side by side in a drag race, unless the Camaro's lighter, the Skyline would win because AWD has a better acceleration than a RWD.

Drifting in a straight line isn't as easy as it sounds lol.

[Black Capone]

Drifting in a straight line isn't as easy as it sounds lol.

E-Brake it...simple.

[Gunner]

I HATE ProStreet. Going online is just sad. People are either getting 10K drifting a straight line, going faster than a 1000+hp Skyline in a 600hp RX-8, or they're doing a quarter mile in 5.49 using the Camaro glitch.


Carbon was better.


Forza was where the REAL circuit racing was held. It was meant for the people that are willing to spend countless hours tuning cars to do what you want them to do. Have you ever tuned a Porsche Carrera GT to drift in Forza? And I bet you won't see a 600hp RX-8 own the 1000hp beasts in Forza.

ProStreet tried to be something it wasn't: realistic. If you put a Camaro and a Skyline with the same capabilities side by side in a drag race, unless the Camaro's lighter, the Skyline would win because AWD has a better acceleration than a RWD.

Thank you

[H2O Commando]

E-Brake it...simple.

Nope you have to let off on it once in awhile to keep your speed and unless you have it tuned right then you can't do it at all.

[Megasoft Office 2001]

ProStreet has a good customization schema (http://www.xfire.com/screenshots/setsunakute/ss_file-093a0a3495ad1e9f5f023ff899b8fb6264673b5c.jpg), which is pretty much all the game has going for it. The units, traction, and tuning are complete dross.
Forza was where the REAL circuit racing was held. It was meant for the people that are willing to spend countless hours tuning cars to do what you want them to do. Have you ever tuned a Porsche Carrera GT to drift in Forza? And I bet you won't see a 600hp RX-8 own the 1000hp beasts in Forza.
Don't take this personally--and this extends to the rest of the X360 crowd--but Forza was more like a mild introduction to road car tuning, and largely about the grandeur of the upmarket sectors: who's the fastest and most powerful. Forza lacks the rendition of small, but highly influential differences between cars that gave them their unique feel. For example, the extra welds to the chassis on a Honda S2000 made road surface irregularities move more rigidly through its chassis to the suspensions than an NB-generation Mazda Roadster 1.8, and the tire width differences between the '95-spec and '98-spec DC2 Integra Type-R produced subtle differences in the way the car recovered from climbing curbs while overspeeding; two realities that the Gran Turismo franchise swears by whereas the Forza games will utterly never have a chance in achieving.

Forza is an accessible road tuner-racer. That means it's simpler, shorter, and especially easier than Gran Turismo, making it popular for a less specific audience.

[H2O.pry0r]

If e-braking to drift in a straight line is simple, were you able to get 10k+ in a drift race? I know an EA mod who gets 16k+ in an NSX and 20k+ in an RX-7 so 10k isn't too impressive by those standards. And FYI, there's handicapping on the cars. That's why a 600 bhp RX-7 can beat a 1,000 bhp GT-R R34. EA said this game was supposed to be more like the original NFS games, not the retarded street racing crap they've been putting out lately. Anyone who has actually played the entire NFS series will agree that this game did exactly what it was meant to do. Is it the most realistic game out there? No. But then again, it was never meant to be a racing sim. though it can be semi-realistic if you use king mode. If you want a true racing sim, go play Grid. NFS has ALWAYS been an arcade racer until ProStreet so give EA a break. Just take Forza for example. It started out as a simulator and when Forza 2 came out it was an even better sim. The same applies to ever NFS game. It started as a good arcade racer, and with every new release the game got better (other than the dumb change in racing style). Now they've switched to simulation. Do you expect them to release an amazing simulation on their first try? I've played every NFS game and ProStreet did exactly what it was meant to do. It wasn't meant to be a hardcore simulator, it was meant to please the true NFS fans who missed the old school style.

[Megasoft Office 2001]

Indeed, Electronic Arts made better games when they were small.
though it can be semi-realistic if you use king mode. If you want a true racing sim, go play Grid.
You must be joking.

I'm not offering a defense for everyone's distaste for EA's ProStreet, but King mode does absolutely nothing to improve the game's legitimacy whereas GRID is also an accessible racing game for a wide, popular audience--not a simulator.

[H2O.pry0r]

ProStreet tried to be something it wasn't: realistic. If you put a Camaro and a Skyline with the same capabilities side by side in a drag race, unless the Camaro's lighter, the Skyline would win because AWD has a better acceleration than a RWD.

AWD has a faster standing start. RWD has faster rolling start. RWD has more BHP so it can achieve higher speeds once it gets going. For that matter, AWD really only accelerates faster in low traction conditions. On the track, a RWD will win.

Sources: Personally experience on the track and been helping or watching my uncle work on cars since I was 3. Ive also built 3 cars for the track myself.

[H2O.pry0r]

Indeed, Electronic Arts made better games when they were small.

You must be joking.

I'm not offering a defense for everyone's distaste for EA's ProStreet, but King mode does absolutely nothing to improve the game's legitimacy whereas GRID is also an accessible racing game for a wide, popular audience--not a simulator.

It's considered a simulator. Is it the best? Nowhere close. Like you said before, Gran Turismo is a true simulator. However, most people are interested in the new release games which is why I said Grid. It's new, and at least partially realistic. And king mode does actually change the handling more to a realistic feeling, it's not entirely real, but at least it's better than casual.

[Megasoft Office 2001]

AWD has a faster standing start. RWD has faster rolling start. RWD has more BHP so it can achieve higher speeds once it gets going. For that matter, AWD really only accelerates faster in low traction conditions. On the track, a RWD will win.
The GT-R's AWD system is governed by computer which controls the active centre differential. FYI, the diff engages the front driveshaft only when slip is detected at the front wheels. For all other situations, the GT-R is a rear-drive coupe. And RWD layouts defeating AWD cars was only true years ago, when all-wheelers used a locked/semi-locked differential, full-time all-wheel drivetrain that produced push-understeer in corners that did not keep the engine speed within the powerband. Besides, rear-drives were lighter and mechanically simpler and more reliable than AWD cars.

[H2O.pry0r]

The GT-R's AWD system is governed by computer which controls the active centre differential. FYI, the diff engages the front driveshaft only when slip is detected at the front wheels. For all other situations, the GT-R is a rear-drive coupe. And RWD layouts defeating AWD cars was only true years ago, when all-wheelers used a locked/semi-locked differential, full-time all-wheel drivetrain that produced push-understeer in corners that did not keep the engine speed within the powerband. Besides, rear-drives were lighter and mechanically simpler and more reliable than AWD cars.

I know how the GT-R works. There's an R34 for sale like 80 miles away from me. I found it on autotrader.com so I called the guy and then me and my uncle went to see it (weren't planning to buy, just wanted to see it haha). 79k for that car....

[H2O Commando]

I know how the GT-R works. There's an R34 for sale like 80 miles away from me. I found it on autotrader.com so I called the guy and then me and my uncle went to see it (weren't planning to buy, just wanted to see it haha). 79k for that car....

Well considering how hard it is to get a Skyline in the U.S. (Seriously our standards are pitiful. We will allow a rednecked 4x4 Dodge but not a RHD Nissan Skyline?) and how much you have to upgrade it to get it to stay in the U.S. then yes that's about right.

[H2O.pry0r]

Well considering how hard it is to get a Skyline in the U.S. (Seriously our standards are pitiful. We will allow a rednecked 4x4 Dodge but not a RHD Nissan Skyline?) and how much you have to upgrade it to get it to stay in the U.S. then yes that's about right.

79k is cheap for that R34. Only has 1,784 miles on it. There was another Skyline with the same body stlye but no spoiler and the engine was different (looked like a Honda VTEC engine to be honest) going for 120k.

[H2O Commando]

79k is cheap for that R34. Only has 1,784 miles on it. There was another Skyline with the same body stlye but no spoiler and the engine was different (looked like a Honda VTEC engine to be honest) going for 120k.

Then that was a rip off. You'd be better off buying a R34 body and then having a shop put together all the parts.

[Megasoft Office 2001]

79k is cheap for that R34. Only has 1,784 miles on it. There was another Skyline with the same body stlye but no spoiler and the engine was different (looked like a Honda VTEC engine to be honest) going for 120k.
It's probably a kit car they assembled onshore. Though I'm willing to bet it used the ER34 body (or one of the other rear-drive Skyline), not the BNR34 GT-R.

Anyway, as I've heard, the importation dilemma has been bouncing back and forth in the United States for some time, most of the action happening between 2002 and 2006. The country's biggest importer was seized by the government and its president imprisoned for something to do about tax evasion and fraud. Around the same time, R32-generation Skyline were restricted from importation when the Department of Transportation found that the ECR33 Skyline GTS25t Motorex sacrificed in a crash test did not produce sufficient data to represent its predecessor; R34 remained legal. Then the R34 were banned when cars in storage were stolen, forcing the IRS to seize the remaining cars.

What's America's transportation laws against importing from Canada? You guys could just pull in some R32 Skyline from here, and then R33 in 2010.

[Black Capone]

AWD has a faster standing start. RWD has faster rolling start. RWD has more BHP so it can achieve higher speeds once it gets going. For that matter, AWD really only accelerates faster in low traction conditions. On the track, a RWD will win.

Sources: Personally experience on the track and been helping or watching my uncle work on cars since I was 3. Ive also built 3 cars for the track myself.

Someone already said it, but RWD, from what I've seen, is only faster in top speed since an AWD system is heavier. In a QUARTER MILE, AWD has the advantage because of its quick takeoff.


Also, 79K is VERY cheap, almost dirt cheap, for a car that's damn near brand new. As far as I'm concerned, they were sold for 80K+, and the value of one, ESPECIALLY in the states, can EASILY rack up over 100K, and that's just for a normal GTR R34. Imagine if it was a V-Spec, V-Spec II, a Nur, or even a Z-Tune?? They only made 20 Z-Tunes and sold them for 150K each, imagine how much you could sell it for in the states....


Brit, note that they only made it illegal to import R34's and R32's and some R33's since March of 2006. Anyone that had one BEFORE then can keep their vehicles since it's already registered (unless they changed it somehow). Do some research first.

GRID, a simulator?!!! HA!!!!!!!!!!! I will say that drifting in GRID is SO MUCH more challenging than in ProStreet IMO. I especially love Downhill Drift :D


I still think Forza was pretty deep, but then again, that was the first simulator I've ever played. Once I get a PS3, I'll check out GT5P.

And a Skyline that had an engine that looked like a VTEC? Without a spoiler??? Sounds like the GT-S to me.....you sure it was a coupe? Remember the four doors didn't come with a spoiler, and were ALOT uglier.

[H2O.pry0r]

Someone already said it, but RWD, from what I've seen, is only faster in top speed since an AWD system is heavier. In a QUARTER MILE, AWD has the advantage because of its quick takeoff.


Also, 79K is VERY cheap, almost dirt cheap, for a car that's damn near brand new. As far as I'm concerned, they were sold for 80K+, and the value of one, ESPECIALLY in the states, can EASILY rack up over 100K, and that's just for a normal GTR R34. Imagine if it was a V-Spec, V-Spec II, a Nur, or even a Z-Tune?? They only made 20 Z-Tunes and sold them for 150K each, imagine how much you could sell it for in the states....


Brit, note that they only made it illegal to import R34's and R32's and some R33's since March of 2006. Anyone that had one BEFORE then can keep their vehicles since it's already registered (unless they changed it somehow). Do some research first.

GRID, a simulator?!!! HA!!!!!!!!!!! I will say that drifting in GRID is SO MUCH more challenging than in ProStreet IMO. I especially love Downhill Drift :D


I still think Forza was pretty deep, but then again, that was the first simulator I've ever played. Once I get a PS3, I'll check out GT5P.

And a Skyline that had an engine that looked like a VTEC? Without a spoiler??? Sounds like the GT-S to me.....you sure it was a coupe? Remember the four doors didn't come with a spoiler, and were ALOT uglier.

The GT-R R34 is pretty much being given away in my opinion. Sure, 79k is a lot of money, but for a car like that I say that's beyond cheap. And it actually was infact a V-Spec (it had the little emblem) :mvclap:

You should see the interior of that thing. It doesn't even look like a person has ever sat it in. The owner said he's kept the car in his garage under a custom made cover and would only drive it to cruise every now and then.

The other one with the VTEC engine honestly seems like someone just dropped an R34 body on to a Honda. Just by looking at the outside and even the interior you can tell the car hasn't been well kept. There's no way you can tell me you're going to treat a super expensive car as if it were your mom's '03 Corolla, right? I personally think the guy is just trying to make a huge profit from a cheap car. For that matter, he's only 20. I sincerely doubt he could afford a real Skyline, even if it was a Skyline without the engine (gives a reason to put a VTEC in it).

I had a Civic with a VTEC and I spent tons of time under the hood of that car. I can spot a VTEC engine from miles away and there's no doubt in my mind that "Skyline" had a VTEC. The 79k one though, that thing is worth every penny and then some!

[Black Capone]

A V-SPEC??!!!! Hell, give me the number! I'll have my friend check it out for me!!!!

And that other one, you do know they make Skyline conversion kits for the Honda Del Sol, right? It comes with the body that looks like a Skyline, and even the head and tail light conversions. Besides, everyone knows that you would use an S15 for a R34 conversion. :p It's very easy to make an S14 Zenki into an R33 since the headlights match and all you need is tail lights and a different kit. :D


Another thing. If you can afford a Skyline shell (which companies sell for 70K as a kit car), you can afford to put an engine better than a VTEC, like the MINE'S R34 Stage 2 engine (13K+) or even the Top Secret engine (40K+).

[H2O Commando]

A V-SPEC??!!!! Hell, give me the number! I'll have my friend check it out for me!!!!

And that other one, you do know they make Skyline conversion kits for the Honda Del Sol, right? It comes with the body that looks like a Skyline, and even the head and tail light conversions. Besides, everyone knows that you would use an S15 for a R34 conversion. :p It's very easy to make an S14 Zenki into an R33 since the headlights match and all you need is tail lights and a different kit. :D


Another thing. If you can afford a Skyline shell (which companies sell for 70K as a kit car), you can afford to put an engine better than a VTEC, like the MINE'S R34 Stage 2 engine (13K+) or even the Top Secret engine (40K+).

I wonder if you could fit a Mustang engine in an R34. That would be UBER!

[Black Capone]

I wonder if you could fit a Mustang engine in an R34. That would be UBER!

That would be UBER FAIL!

[H2O.pry0r]

That would be UBER FAIL!

It could be a good thing, think about it, a Mustang engine doesn't have problems passing emissions laws which the R34 seems to have unless you drop a ton of money on it. But if you have the cash, go for it.

[Black Capone]

It could be a good thing, think about it, a Mustang engine doesn't have problems passing emissions laws which the R34 seems to have unless you drop a ton of money on it. But if you have the cash, go for it.

Performance wise, I say no. There are alotta engines that can go into a Skyline chassis and still wouldn't have emission problems. HOWEVER, if you were to put a GT500, or the new engine that pushes 725hp with a supercharger, THEN it wouldn't be a failure in my eyes.



Then again, I don't like the Mustang. :p

[Megasoft Office 2001]

The RB26-powered GT-R have always had problems with complying to emission laws, anywhere in the world. This is because the engine is an old straight-six design, which also happens to be turbocharged, whereas the new Mustang V8 engine is naturally aspirated. You could just install a high-quality aftermarket catalytic converter to deal with emissions, which are less than $600 and will keep exhausts clean up to a tune of maybe 400 horsepower. You'll need to also consider that the Mustang's V8 engine is single overhead cam, has two banks with two downpipes going into two different catalytic converters because it has two independent exhaust pipes. The Skyline has a single-bank to only one cat for it's only exhaust pipe, but it doesn't make it significantly dirtier than a 4.6L V8's two pipes, combined.

There's this stigma of it being expensive to retrofit for emissions compliance because some people go through some bizarre measures, such as remapping/replacing the engine management to burn a lean mix. And these alleged 'costs' usually include labour, federal registration, and other naturalization fees paid to the broker and Department of Transportation.
I wonder if you could fit a Mustang engine in an R34. That would be UBER!
The Mustang engine wouldn't have the same smoothness of a straight-six.

[H2O Commando]

The RB26-powered GT-R have always had problems with complying to emission laws, anywhere in the world. This is because the engine is an old straight-six design, which also happens to be turbocharged, whereas the new Mustang V8 engine is naturally aspirated. You could just install a high-quality aftermarket catalytic converter to deal with emissions, which are less than $600 and will keep exhausts clean up to a tune of maybe 400 horsepower. You'll need to also consider that the Mustang's V8 engine is single overhead cam, has two banks with two downpipes going into two different catalytic converters because it has two independent exhaust pipes. The Skyline has a single-bank to only one cat for it's only exhaust pipe, but it doesn't make it significantly dirtier than a 4.6L V8's two pipes, combined.

There's this stigma of it being expensive to retrofit for emissions compliance because some people go through some bizarre measures, such as remapping/replacing the engine management to burn a lean mix. And these alleged 'costs' usually include labour, federal registration, and other naturalization fees paid to the broker and Department of Transportation.

The Mustang engine wouldn't have the same smoothness of a straight-six.

But it's got that kickass revving sound that says American Muscle. And what about a Corvette Z06 engine?

[Megasoft Office 2001]

But it's got that kickass revving sound that says American Muscle. And what about a Corvette Z06 engine?Again, the engine is a still single-port engine (but of a pushrod design instead of the Mustang's SOHC) which makes revving the engine quite rough, producing a lot of kinetic resonation in the engine bay and chassis. But I have to say, the GM LS7 is a superb engine, definitely the best American engine today.

Mechanically, the smoothest revving engine you can have is always an inline six or V12 since they spread the combustion timing as smoothly as realistically achievable. And the exhaust note is influenced by the silencer; I can kit my whisper-quiet LS 400 with a Borla package and it will sound exactly like a GT500.

[H2O.pry0r]

The most common thing I've heard of for emission control on the R34 is usually a mines ECU and an apexi exhaust (why is it always that brand?). However, that isn't even close to good enough for California laws. It honestly seems like California laws are trying to force drivers to use electric cars >.>

[H2O Commando]

Again, the engine is a still single-port engine (but of a pushrod design instead of the Mustang's SOHC) which makes revving the engine quite rough, producing a lot of kinetic resonation in the engine bay and chassis. But I have to say, the GM LS7 is a superb engine, definitely the best American engine today.

Mechanically, the smoothest revving engine you can have is always an inline six or V12 since they spread the combustion timing as smoothly as realistically achievable. And the exhaust note is influenced by the silencer; I can kit my whisper-quiet LS 400 with a Borla package and it will sound exactly like a GT500.

MUST you know everything? xD

[Black Capone]

I can't believe people think Skylines should NOT imported.....and I really hope Undercover has a Skyline in it.

[H2O Commando]

It must. It's in huge demand lol