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PMS EM
07-28-2006, 08:55 AM
very very sad

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xrQNvOKXNRw&search=halo%202%20matchmaking

MiZz Psych0
07-28-2006, 10:15 AM
Oh yeah, once you get up to a 30 and play with more than two people, you're gonna almost get modded everytime if you don't get hostbox. It's really depressing...

The Geeky Panda
07-28-2006, 10:28 AM
this is wat happens when the Modding community gets introduced to HAlo 2, it ruins gameplay for everyone

Kal-El
07-28-2006, 11:13 AM
this is wat happens when the Modding community gets introduced to HAlo 2, it ruins gameplay for everyone

Like gameplay wasn't ruined before (A.K.A. the first round of modders). This just goes to prove what I've been saying all along. Bungie didn't fix anything with their patch. Proof of that is that modding never stopped, and has now even gotten worse.

MoNk3y Fr3aK92
07-28-2006, 11:59 AM
wow, that is very. gay

EpiK SkillZ
07-28-2006, 12:03 PM
Lol, this is why I'm only a 32. I don't even really play Matchmaking anymore, because I almost get cheated in every playlist.

icy
07-28-2006, 12:09 PM
that's horrible.

Lady Eve PMS
07-28-2006, 12:14 PM
they've been modding on beaver creek for about half a year now.

i pretty much am sick of cheating. it's just the love for halo and my friends that keeps me going.

icy
07-28-2006, 12:17 PM
I got modded on coag once. The worst thing about it was that they were on our team, which made the other team think we were all cheating. Kinda pissed us off.

H2O Default
07-28-2006, 12:19 PM
I get modded all the time... Once I got my 34 i started bridging to get host to keep from getting modded on... then i realised that was almost as bad as modding in itself so i just quit and de-leveled.

icy
07-28-2006, 12:21 PM
^^^ I do that so I don't get cheated too. But I'm not the one doing it, I have a friend that does. Other than that I don't. I like to do double team with my b/f and own the little nublets. ^-^

H2O Default
07-28-2006, 12:21 PM
Oh and one time on Containment some guy on the other team was modding , and some how it made us (on the opposite team) mod also... like just randomly one of us would start goes 20x faster than everyone else xD by the end of the game the modder on the other team was threatening to report us for modding x.x

H2O Default
07-28-2006, 12:22 PM
DT is awesome but my DT partner faded away...
RIP ~ Kia

icy
07-28-2006, 12:27 PM
lol. My DT partner is my boyfriend, cause I pwn everything with him on my team. ^-^

H2O Default
07-28-2006, 12:52 PM
Well we only ever got up to a 30 in DT , she was awesome though..I miss her... =*(

MoNk3y Fr3aK92
07-28-2006, 12:53 PM
question.. who is kia?

H2O Default
07-28-2006, 12:55 PM
she was my DT partner in H2. She wasnt real big on the clan aspect of the game so no-one here will have heard of her...

icy
07-28-2006, 12:56 PM
I'm only at a 24 right now in doulbe team, but my win ratio is 59%.

H2O Default
07-28-2006, 12:59 PM
nice

P.S. Sorry for spamming this thread with all of my random replies =/

fishman550
07-28-2006, 01:19 PM
i'm a 26 double team, i went 4 games in a row getting standbyed and modded

i was a 28 DT, and within about 30 minutes i'd gone down due to the scum of H2:mad:

although there are some honorable people, but technically its cheating, i was in a game with a modder and a bridger on sanctuary and the bridger blocked the modder so he got booted out so it was a fair game (of sorts) we lost, but it was the right thing to do eh?

H2O Default
07-28-2006, 01:24 PM
yea, thats what i had to do with my hardcore level.. i bridged myself host and lagged out the modders but i got flamed almost as much as the modder, so i just de-ranked and left that H2 drama crap behind...
To be honest, I didnt realise that Hardcore was that full of modders until i got to about 27 (and thats not even that high of a level)

fishman550
07-28-2006, 01:25 PM
yeah its useless MM, i prefer custom game anyway, if only there was a random gametype setting

H2O Default
07-28-2006, 01:27 PM
yes'm and team action sack gets so repetitive... especially plasma/brute wars z.Z

I love customs but so far i only have about 3 ppl willing to play em with me.

fishman550
07-28-2006, 01:31 PM
lol entropy = no mates

i'll play with you (interpret that how you wish, either way i'm up for it) just add me on live, fishman550

icy
07-28-2006, 01:35 PM
We had that problem with a modder on Sanctuary in a Team Sniper game. The modder was horrible though. His entire team got lagged out and he stayed till the end. He siad he deserved it. It was great! :D

@entropy - I love customs dude. Play with me when I get back on, k?

H2O Default
07-28-2006, 01:37 PM
Yea Fishman i think i sent you a FR coupla days ago , last i checked it was still there so i guess i'll re-send?

Devolution
07-28-2006, 01:37 PM
This will definitely be less of an issue in halo 3 if they code for dedicated servers. This guy probably isn't the first to it, just the first documented case. I've had some strange ordeals happen on cd/"old" maps myself.

Halo 2 has been on a down slope for a while now, if it's not a bridged host, it's standby, if not standby then modding. Even if someone doesn't cheat, if their "host" doesn't like you, you're in for a crap game anyway.

It's sad but true =\.

icy
07-28-2006, 01:39 PM
That's why I like unranked games best, you don't get that many modders and the attitude isn't as serious. Also why I'm grateful they haven't made Team Sway and BTB Slayer ranked yet, they're my two favorite unranked games.

fishman550
07-28-2006, 01:39 PM
if halo 3 has dedicated servers, i will personally kiss every member of bungie.

EDIT: unfortuneatly i've been cheated in Team Training, Team Actionsack and Rumble Training...its sad that people cheat for ranks, but even sadder that they cheat for nothing.

icy
07-28-2006, 01:42 PM
Same here, but it's less common in those gametypes.

H2O Default
07-28-2006, 01:43 PM
Yea i was modded on in a lvl 4 team skirmish... hard to get much sadder than that...

Team-Swat used to be my fav. gametype but as of late everyone has been taking it alot more serious :[ not as relaxed as it was in the begining...

icy
07-28-2006, 01:45 PM
sadness when you mention Team Skirmish. A while ago I used to team standby for my level. I no longer play Team Skirmish because the guilt is too great. I feel so bad about it and I never want to do it again.

PMS LuckyCharms
07-28-2006, 01:48 PM
During a Bravo practice the other day we went into BTB Slayer. We ended up getting modded on Waterworks =/ A lot of us quit before the game went on very long. Can you guess who the modder was?

http://www.bungie.net/Stats/GameStats.aspx?panel=kills&gameid=533864592&player=PMS%20LuckyCharms

H2O Default
07-28-2006, 01:48 PM
lol.. I'm not sure that anyone really cares about T-Skir. any more (no offense if your reading this and its your fav. gametype) so i'm sure you will be just fine...

H2O Default
07-28-2006, 01:49 PM
well, I bet they won xD

icy
07-28-2006, 01:53 PM
I bet they did. lol. It's not my fav gametype, DT and Team Swat are.

Devolution
07-28-2006, 01:54 PM
lol.. I'm not sure that anyone really cares about T-Skir. any more (no offense if your reading this and its your fav. gametype) so i'm sure you will be just fine...

I don't think that's the point here.

H2O Default
07-28-2006, 02:23 PM
Of course it isnt , but if she is sincerely sorry about it she shouldnt worry about it.. its int he past..

fishman550
07-28-2006, 03:25 PM
i dont like cheating, i really feel bad if i win a game due to someone on my team cheating, i remember when i used to lose a game if i won via cheaters, i dont do that anymore though as i dont play MM as much as i used to

icy
07-28-2006, 03:38 PM
I feel like a noob. what's mm?

H2O SkywalkerX
07-28-2006, 03:39 PM
it has been possible since modding started to do old maps. it's just really hard to do.
it sucks, but halo2 is gonna die here soon anyways.

fishman550
07-28-2006, 03:41 PM
I feel like a noob. what's mm?

Match Making :D

icy
07-28-2006, 03:45 PM
o yeah. my mind is bleh from sadness.

fishman550
07-28-2006, 03:49 PM
:( :( :( :(

H2O Default
07-28-2006, 05:09 PM
Well I dont think, that in my entire H2 career i have ever been stuck on the team with a modder... call me blessed.

x SexyPink x
07-28-2006, 06:15 PM
lol that is funny. i wish i got modded on a old map. i wouldnt say the end to halo 2. this happened ever since halo 2 came out, besides how often does this happen?

lol i got my 34 back in dt real easily. from 32 - 33 1 game away from 34, we played derankers. yay.

but lol i noticed lower level people mod, like u have a better chance on playing legit at level like 38 then at level 31

Kal-El
07-28-2006, 06:16 PM
^^^ I do that so I don't get cheated too. But I'm not the one doing it, I have a friend that does. Other than that I don't. I like to do double team with my b/f and own the little nublets. ^-^

Technically De-leveling can be seen as cheating also. You're basically cheating the ranking system. Giving the other team a free game (or in other words boosting their rank), and you're bringing your rank down. Not to mention that playing against a team that's deliberately losing is no fun, so you're cheating people out of an enjoyable game.

Lets say you're level 20 and delevel to 15 (Just for the sake of smallish numbers). When you actually play against someone that's a legit 15 you're better than them. The MM system put you against them because you deleveled, so it's an unfair match. You're cheating that person out of a fair game. fun. and cheating the ranking system.

I'd go into more detail, but I don't feel like it right now.... TIME TO JUMP IN THE POOL! MUHAHAHA.

H2O Default
07-28-2006, 06:24 PM
Wow That hurt my head , though i must say your right.... So how to solve this conundrum (sp?) ----__---

H2O Default
07-28-2006, 06:26 PM
lol that is funny. i wish i got modded on a old map. i wouldnt say the end to halo 2. this happened ever since halo 2 came out, besides how often does this happen?

lol i got my 34 back in dt real easily. from 32 - 33 1 game away from 34, we played derankers. yay.

but lol i noticed lower level people mod, like u have a better chance on playing legit at level like 38 then at level 31


Thats either because its a trial account that they have just started or they dont make it long enough to get that high (ex=get banned)

Kal-El
07-28-2006, 06:51 PM
Wow That hurt my head , though i must say your right.... So how to solve this conundrum (sp?) ----__---

Don't de-level. If you don't want to get modded/cheated you have two choices:

1)Stop playing Halo (recommended)
2)Play Custom games

People have been complaining about cheating on MM since Halo came out. Why people go back to MM anyways really puzzles me.

Oryan
07-28-2006, 07:12 PM
People need to get their facts straight.

1. Its always been possible to "MOD" Halo2 maps. People have been modding them even BEFORE the game came out (Leaked French Version)

2. People only introduced Halo2 modding on XBox LIVE when the downloadable content was released becuase the maps were on the harddrive and could be modded once and kept on the harddrive after the modchip or softmod was turned off. If one had a modchip or softmod ON during a match on XBOX LIVE they would instantlely get banned.

3. Now that MS released the Xbox 360 and people have been able to mod it (via firmware hack) People have the ability to play burnt games on live - since MS hasn't released a patch for it. EXAMPLE: George has a modded version of HALO 2 where everybody in multiplayer looks like the PROPHET character. He can now play it on live if he has - 1.) Correctly burned the Modded Version onto a DVD+R DL 2.) XBOX360 with working Hacked Firmware (DVD DRIVE) 3.) XBOX LIVE

4. The best way to get rid of modders on "OLD MAPS" (mainly) is for Microsoft to start banning people for using hacked firmware on the XBOX LIVE.

BTW -
XBOX 360 firmware hacks have been available for months! It's really easy to mod your xbox360, people just have to be willing to risk their money. So as more and more people gain trust in their skills, the more and more people will be doing this unless Microsoft puts a stop to it.

I am not a Halo2 modder nor do I condon modding on XBOX LIVE. I just thought I would settle some undisputed nonsense that was getting flinged around. If anyone has any questions just ask. (And No - I wont help you mod your 360 or even point you to any sites)



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H2O Default
07-28-2006, 07:31 PM
Thanks for the info.

H2O Default
07-28-2006, 07:58 PM
Technically De-leveling can be seen as cheating also. You're basically cheating the ranking system. Giving the other team a free game (or in other words boosting their rank), and you're bringing your rank down. Not to mention that playing against a team that's deliberately losing is no fun, so you're cheating people out of an enjoyable game.

Lets say you're level 20 and delevel to 15 (Just for the sake of smallish numbers). When you actually play against someone that's a legit 15 you're better than them. The MM system put you against them because you deleveled, so it's an unfair match. You're cheating that person out of a fair game. fun. and cheating the ranking system.

I'd go into more detail, but I don't feel like it right now.... TIME TO JUMP IN THE POOL! MUHAHAHA.


Speaking of de-rankers. I just got a DR on my team in snipers. We still won though, I set my handicap to severe adn when he threw a grenade for a suicide i ran up behind him and got betrayed = booted...then we started only 4 kills behind.

icy
07-28-2006, 08:02 PM
go you. that's the way to get rid of those derankers!

H2O Default
07-28-2006, 08:04 PM
Aye!

Lindsayxcore
07-28-2006, 08:27 PM
Oh great old now.:(

ICantLose
07-29-2006, 11:19 AM
Haha they got modded

Ang3l PMS
07-29-2006, 12:25 PM
Thats why when I play matchmaking, i play unranked games. I mean... who mods in team swat?

H2O Default
07-29-2006, 01:19 PM
You would be surprised....

IIBoNeChIlLaII
07-29-2006, 04:40 PM
i looked at that modder, i bet we win's, games and hes played against 7 different people, who dont know each other, on my friends list O.o