suggestions for halo 3

[JAY R0CK 71]

hey im bored so lets think about how the very classic shooter halo 2 could possibly be improved. hmm, see i was thinkin. what if there was a way to track no scopes. that would rock ma socks off yo. lol,

i have another idea, what if you could click in the right thumbstick to bring up his left arm, being able to shoot two different targets. idk, food for thought.

[CloveRgirL]

I think something that would be cool is MLG as playlist in matchmaking listed under.......MLG Team SLayer.....MLG "Rumble"(as bungie would put it) booby traps!!!!!!!custom soundtracks!!!!!!

[Apoth3osis]

...very classic shooter halo 2...

Halo 1 pwns Halo 2, and is way more classic... but thats another discussion onto itself...

Hmm... how about no host advantages for starters. More weapons in each class ie: have multiple automatic weapons, each w/ different rates of fire etc. Have more customization options for "custom" games ie: more options for weapon selection, like have a game that is random weapons w/o rockets or w/o swords. DONT bring back the Halo 1 pistol, but upgrade the Halo 2 pistol a bit. Make the vehicles feel more "heavy" (like they did in Halo 1). Make the Frags more powerfull... like they were in Halo 1. Make MC run faster... it feels so slow in Halo 2.
Be able to drop weapons at any time.

What they shouldent do is make each weapon have an effect on your speed a la Counter Strike or PDZ. Focus so much on multiplayer... I want a strong SP campaign.

I dono... have some sort knife.... because we all know that when you have a knife you can run faster ;) ... and oh yeah.... dual Swords, thats right... Dual Swords.

[PMS Chocolate]

i personally like the photo in an xbox magazine i saw . . . a two person motorcycle w/sidecar . . . hahahaha, lol, it's sweet!

[JAY R0CK 71]

lol, motorcycle in halo. ur crazzzzy. but wicked awsome id love it.

custom soundtracks would rock but i like gunfire too, sounds help sometimes.

also, campaign on different xboxes

[Apoth3osis]

... campaign on different xboxes

Like Co-Op over live?

[JAY R0CK 71]

yeah, thats what i meant. i feel like i was tricked by bungie when i tried at first.

ah well. all we can do is wait:rolleyes:

[VballChick PMS]

a female spartan for mutiplayer

[PMS Chocolate]

a female spartan for mutiplayer

ditto :)

[JAY R0CK 71]

then go ahead and make a female elite too

[SilentBow]

1. It wud be tight to give ur marines or covenant squad some commands.
2. We can already so this but it shud be taken a step furthur tho....being able to customize MC. I dont kno, i think changing the color and symbol isnt enough 4 me.
3. Like it was said above, different variations of weapons. I want to be able to choose 4rm 5 different sniper rifles.
4. hmmm.....i have more but im kinda sleepy right now so ill post later :)

[icy]

I like the idea of female spartans. It would be more logical to just have female spartans. They have female marines but do they have female covenant? Not that I know of.

[fishman550]

i agree with the heavy vehicle thing and also like in H1 how when you got out they kept moving properly (like they should do) not just stop.
i also dont want the ghost to clip to the floor, in H2 it follows the lay of the land i dont think thats right, it might hover but it shouldnt be pulled towards the floor aswell it should bounce over bumps and sh*t like in H1

pistol should be a bit less powerful than H1's with a small clip 7-8 no scope but when you click zoom it should bring the pistol up for a better aim, Call of Duty style y'know?

and plasma should be like halo 1 where it stopped you, but a bit less so you move forward a bit slower but not stop

and still no fall damage but i want when you hit the floor to stop like you used to so there is some bad about jumping off stuff

and this is a MUST an ammo counter for the sword in MULTIPLAYER, damn thats annoying.

well that was a rather large post :D oops!

[Dizzydude]

Get rid of auto-aim.
Get rid of the sword or make it so you can't lunge from like six feet away. When did Halo turn so magical?

Oh and actually don't fix what wasn't broken.

[KingNothing H2O]

I would like to see no jumping and it in 3rd person. Also, I would like to see a knife for a melee kill. Anything to make it more like a simulation instead of an over the top arcade feel.

I am pretty sure either isn't gonna happen. LOL

Oh yeah and online co op....that one might actually happen.

[fishman550]

no jumping and third person? go play graw. <censored>

[JAY R0CK 71]

not the *** part but keep jumping in there, and stay 1st person. its halo and they are in space. and for god sakes its a shooter.

knife sounds good. and fuel rod cannon. also, add better covenant weapons. two different rifles suck. and yes good idea with the pistol.
also, you might be pushing it a bit on the command with marines. might turn it up a bit but i want it to be more about the shooting and killing, yeah strategy is good, but an arcade feel with this type is def preferred. thanks on the post guys, and keep going:D

[SilentBow]

well not to command like that. i mean like i shud have a decision on what i want them to do in limited situations. Ill admit that if we start with detailed commands, it will take away 4rm the originality of tha game
^^^^^
is that even a word?? lolz

[JAY R0CK 71]

yeah, alrighty. that could work

[Apoth3osis]

For the knife, it would have to be some sort of plasma knife as im pretty sure a standard steel knife wouldnt even scratch MC's or an Elite's armour(SP?).... Unless of course it was a kife made by Hattori Hanzo ;)

[xi Apocalypse ix]

This might sound crazy but H3 should run on the new Unreal Engine3.

[fishman550]

who is hattori hanzo? and also they should put in an upgraded version of gephyrophobia, that was an amazing level :D

[SilentBow]

For the knife, it would have to be some sort of plasma knife as im pretty sure a standard steel knife wouldnt even scratch MC's or an Elite's armour(SP?).... Unless of course it was a kife made by Hattori Hanzo ;)

lolz must get the hanzo sword 4rm budd.....

anywayz.....

i dont know about a knife tho. too comando looking. i mean dont u think the sword iz enough?

[CaptainDemon]

hey, the *** comment wasn't cool fishman, totally uncalled for, but regardless, here's what I'd like to see in Halo 3.

Auto shield recharger = Not what you might think cause of the title. I think that in multiplayer that when you kill an opponent your shields should recharge no matter what, or maybe get more shields (like an overshield) for each kill you get. Kills in succession (Double Kill, Triple Kill, Killtacular etc.) would allow boosts in shield energy. I think this would even the playing field in FFA and allow skillful players to show their skill by chaining shield bursts. Not a serious thought but I think it'd be cool.

Weaponry = Ammo counter on the sword, or no sword at all is what I say. Also, make it so that when the plasma pistol shoots a charged blast, you have to wait for it to cool down until you have to change weapons, aka no noob combo, or at least a dulled one. SMG shouldn't be such a peashooter (make it a bit bigger and strong, it's wimpy right now) and beef up the pistol so that it feels like a 45. cal pistol.

Skins = Add in some new skins, like the above mentioned female spartan, or heretic elite. Basically add skins that wouldn't change the game play drastically, this isn't a class based multiplayer game.

Melee combat = Make the melee feel more like you're bashing in someone's skull with a rifle. More kinetics, if I hit someone in the face they shouldn't be able to shoot back too well.

Jumping = No more levitation. It feels like the Chief is effortlessly flying through the air and landing just as well. Give a 700 pound (with armor) Spartan the weight he should. Not slow, mind you, just heavy.

Boarding = When you jack a Ghost or Banshee, you get in the driver's seat immediately during the jack, but for a Warthog, Scorpion, Wraith, and Spectre all you do is kick them out of the seat, allowing them to kill you right when you kick them out of their seat.

Weaponry pt. 2 = Needler should not be a joke, make the needles faster, like in those early vids we saw. Also, no purple needles, it looks fruity. Make it a darker, more sinister purple, not candy-colored.

Sorry for the long list, hah.

[Sir Tequila]

Weapons: Get rid of the SMG, since the AR's back. You mean to tell me a highly trained cyborg warrior can flip a two-ton tank, yet he can't manage recoil on a peashooter? Please... Like Demon said, I want an ammo counter on the sword. People who camp with it can easily be de-based then. The sniper rifle should have some recoil. A little, ya know? If you're shooting a 50 caliber sniper rifle (or however much it is), it would have more recoil than the peashoosting SMGs.

Vehicles: It would be so much easier if there was a swap-vehicle-position button, where you could go from passenger to gunner by pressing A or something. Also, fishman (I think it was you...), the Ghost is just fine right now. It needs to push on the ground anyway with some force, so that's why it is up.

Melee: Like Demon said again, bash 'em. They should be deterred a tad.

That's all for now.

And Demon, I'm surprised you didn't say fatalities! You've said that before. ;)

[SilentBow]

no those were some really good ideas...i agree with all of them. I am tired of MC not being able to actually board the land vehicles. I also think that the whole jumping thing iz a lil too much. It duz feel like he iz flying

Like i said above, i agree with everything u had to say. I wander if bungie would actually take some of this into consideration when they were making the game cuz i kno some of them had the same problem also.

[fishman550]

it was called for. why not just do that guys ideas and call it halo recon 1 the gay wars

[CaptainDemon]

it wasn't called for because it was disrespectful and could easily have been handled differently. I have no problem with you, or any wish to have a problem, so I'm just going to say that you respect everyone on these forums. You both have opinions, they differ. There is no reason to degrade someone because of their opinions.

Sgt: I was actually going to say fatalities, but thought it wouldn't be too useful in a multiplayer environment. Besides, I'll leave the flashy kills to Gears of War (CHAINSAW!!!) Though I wish it felt more like a hit, like you actually see your weapon hit their body, it'd be so much cooler to do and see.

[Raevn]

Skins = Add in some new skins, like the above mentioned female spartan, or heretic elite. Basically add skins that wouldn't change the game play drastically, this isn't a class based multiplayer game.

Problem with that, female Spartans and male Spartans look exactly the same. The armor is not more "form fitting" on the females. Just look at the Spartan character in DOA4. No difference.

[JAY R0CK 71]

fishman im gonna ask a favor, lets please not verbally hate on others. if you disagree, tell demon and not use vulgarity. now im trying to say whos right, but i think he deserves respect.

good ideas guys. but the jump should stay unless he returns to earth or a planet that has less gravity

[Apoth3osis]

fishman im gonna ask a favor, lets please not verbally hate on others. if you disagree, tell demon and not use vulgarity. now im trying to say whos right, but i think he deserves respect.

good ideas guys. but the jump should stay unless he returns to earth or a planet that has less gravity

Speaking of gravity... I think MP maps set on different planets w/ different gravities would be coo, also maps with weather that effected the map. For example lets see Zanzibar while its raining or Snowing, and beach part could be frozen or something. Also if the 360 has enough power (which I think it does), if there was snow, you could leave footprints in the snow, or mud, or your substance of choice, and you could track people that way... Whatev, they're just suggestions.

[JAY R0CK 71]

thats a really good idea, besides it could add to gameplay strategy w/o taking away shooter part. mm, nice one

[Apoth3osis]

Also, I think it would be sweet if you could see other peoples secondary weapons on their backs or wherever.... It makes more sense than MC pulling a sniper out of his sleeve. The same goes for ammo, I think it would be cool to see extra BR cartridges strapped on to MC (assuming the BR is in Halo 3)... but I think you get what im gettin at... Heck, if you were keen enough you could tell how much ammo someone had just by lookin at their belt or whatever.

Problem with that, female Spartans and male Spartans look exactly the same. The armor is not more "form fitting" on the females. Just look at the Spartan character in DOA4. No difference.

The only thing (that ive noticed) between the two genders is the voice... but they could easily record a female voice... besides I think the extent of the voice talent in MP is "WAHHHHHHH", that shouldent be to hard to get.

[k1d 650]

it was called for. why not just do that guys ideas and call it halo recon 1 the gay wars


This is unneeded on these forums. It his opinion, and he is entitled to it. Do not bash him for it, that is extremely rude. If you feel so strongly against his ideas, then I suggest you PM him about it and not attack him publically on these boards.

[JAY R0CK 71]

im sure he realized he made a mistake h20, thanks for reinforcement, i know you have more "authority" here, being an h20 but i asked him nice and i think he'll stop

[k1d 650]

lol i have no authority whatsoever. it was just rude and it looked like he saw nothing wrong so i reinforced it a little.

Back on topic i think if they decide to bring the sword back they need to put a limit on it, like in the campaign mode.

[JAY R0CK 71]

yes meter on sword= good idea. also, add one more alien weapon. no frigin dumb ones. i mean come on, i prefer all human weapon. give them something for godsakes

[PMS Chocolate]

omg . . . i can't wait until halo 3!!!!!!!!!!!!

oh, and if they made a female spartan . . . they BETTER not make her to form too much bc i think that would give a slight advantage . . . women's hips are wider!

[edx]

Would like to see some sort of TF (team fortress) game type. Whether it be Assault or CTF.

[JAY R0CK 71]

omg . . . i can't wait until halo 3!!!!!!!!!!!!

oh, and if they made a female spartan . . . they BETTER not make her to form too much bc i think that would give a slight advantage . . . women's hips are wider!


disadvantage!!!! some of us might get distracted so whos gettin the advantage:) , jk, lol. its like a robot though, i mean, not to be sexist but, im not sure theyd build female spartans to put on the front line.

[PMS Chocolate]

disadvantage!!!! some of us might get distracted so whos gettin the advantage:) , jk, lol. its like a robot though, i mean, not to be sexist but, im not sure theyd build female spartans to put on the front line.


oooooo, i'd be a little careful here on an all-girls clan's site, matt. hahaha, very careful indeed. lol . . i was actually saying the female spartan would have a disadvantage bc the hips would be wider, therefore giving more room for targeting her

[JAY R0CK 71]

hehe, i got your point addie! but im sayin it might not matter cz of the female body's effect on some males!!!! haha, this is halo. and your a silly goose.:)

[H2o sLacK]

oooooo, i'd be a little careful here on an all-girls clan's site, matt. hahaha, very careful indeed. lol . . i was actually saying the female spartan would have a disadvantage bc the hips would be wider, therefore giving more room for targeting her



lol, cuz we aim for the hips

[JAY R0CK 71]

haha, thanks.somebody gets my point. no offense but you can have the widest hips ever:) , but im still aimin for the head

[icy]

female spartans are people too!

[PMS Chocolate]

hahhaha, this thread is gettin' a little awkward . . .

[SilentBow]

i kno huh...hips....heads....wtf!!!

[JAY R0CK 71]

oh god. girls are crazzie sumtimes. haha.

i like how harper threw in the morality comment, lol

[PMS Chocolate]

lol . . . she's right tho!!!!!!!!!!!!! :)

[icy]

^-^ makes me feel special!

[JAY R0CK 71]

wtf!!! i get ganged on all the time. i know they are people!

[PMS Chocolate]

wtf!!! i get ganged on all the time. i know they are people!

awwwwwwwwwww . .. it's all in good fun . . . or, at least i know you're not sexist and stuff, lol

[JAY R0CK 71]

haha, this forum is too much to handle:p .

im takin a break

[icy]

no breaks! you get back to work!

[JAY R0CK 71]

damn. fine then miss bossy gillis

[PMS Chocolate]

hahahahaha, ooooooooooooooo, cat fight!!!!!!

[icy]

:D damn straight. I could be that b*tchy female boss that everyone hates but wants to f*ck.

[JAY R0CK 71]

wtf. haha. and why you sayin cat fight lil missy. dont make me bring you in this

[icy]

take estrogen. :D

[PMS Chocolate]

lol, you better hope SilentBow doesn't get dragged into it! she'll cough up a hairball on yo a$$! lololol

[JAY R0CK 71]

haha. my stomache hurts from laughter

[icy]

hairball? wtf?

[JAY R0CK 71]

lol, wow. i throw punches. i dont cough up things like i got crazy insane powers

[PMS Chocolate]

lol . . . i was trying to make a connection between the whole cat fight thing . .. but alas, i don't think that worked out . .. haha

[icy]

I hit like a girl who plays video games, so you better watch the f*ck out! :D

[JAY R0CK 71]

oh yeah......hehe, im slow. im not a cat though!

[icy]

meow

[CaptainDemon]

bark

this is going to a dark place, not a bad place, but a dark one.

[icy]

moo.

[CaptainDemon]

ribbit

[icy]

we should probably get back to the topic, before we get warned for spamming.

[SilentBow]

lol, you better hope SilentBow doesn't get dragged into it! she'll cough up a hairball on yo a$$! lololol

lmao waaaattttt....hairballz....hmmm.....i dont fight like a girl. I like to use martial arts. more specifically tae kwon do iz my choice to fight so if any of u hairball, estrogen takin ppl wanna take me on then.................

leeetttsss get ready to ruuuuuuuummbllllllllleeee!!!!!!

[Shishka]

its like a robot though, i mean, not to be sexist but, im not sure theyd build female spartans to put on the front line.

Actually, there are at least 3 female Spartans in the canon periphery. Kelly and Linda from the books, and Nicole-458 from Dead Or Alive 4.

However, those who have played DOA4 know there's not really any difference in the way they look.

Just thought I'd throw that in. I'm going to stay out of the rest of this discussion- particularly the spam.

[CaptainDemon]

Nice Shiska, but the spam is what is keeping this topic alive, heheh.

[JAY R0CK 71]

well i dont have a 360 so how would i know!!!!

[Raevn]

Nice Shiska, but the spam is what is keeping this topic alive, heheh.
Unfortunately it seems almost every post in this forum seems to be getting bogged down with drivel.

[fishman550]

theres another female spartan, Grace.

[icy]

I know that there really isn't a difference in armor when talking about the female spartan from DOA, but they should differentiate in Halo 3. There's a rising number of girls playing halo 2 (duh!) and I think more of them would be disappointed if they made a female spartan but didn't make her look "feminine".

[JAY R0CK 71]

make the spartans heshe's and everyones happy

[PMS Chocolate]

make the spartans heshe's and everyones happy

lmao . . . that would be an interesting voice . . . hmmmmm . . . maybe they should hire SilentBow to do the voice? hahahahha, JK JK!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[PMS WildChild]

u know what? i think halo might be better off w/o the plasma pistol

[JAY R0CK 71]

haha. i like that suggestion

[PMS WildChild]

i mean, if not remove it completely, they could at least remove the plasma pistol blast's ability to follow its opponent... anything to give the noob combo a little less authority...

[Apoth3osis]

I like the plasma pistol, but... I do agree that they need a way to tone down the noob combo. Maybe they should just make it so you cant change weapons immediately after firing a charged plasma bolt.

Actually, there are at least 3 female Spartans in the canon periphery. Kelly and Linda from the books, and Nicole-458 from Dead Or Alive 4.

However, those who have played DOA4 know there's not really any difference in the way they look.

Just thought I'd throw that in. I'm going to stay out of the rest of this discussion- particularly the spam.

Woah... maybe Bungie is listening to our "suggestions" after all.

[justinbaily]

Well being that pms is a legit clan why not have advanced clan search options whereby
if you're online and want to play others in pms,this includes h2o's, simply click on
list clans and those clans that've registered as clans would be displayed and then click on pms...after that you could do a quick match(gets x # of players randomly),reginal
(easten,central,mountain or western) or just an everywhere(canada,england,france,germany etc)-if there are any clan members there you should be able to pull from these teritorys as well.

What do you guys think?!

[JAY R0CK 71]

thats probly a lead to one of the best ideas youve ever had:D

[Arella Goddess]

You do realize that if they made a female spartan that ALMOST every guy would make themselves a female spartan just for the fact that they are dumb and just trying to piss people off. girls would of course use it but so would guys.

So I was thinking that when you make a new account you have to put a female to have the ability to be a female spartan/elite
and choose male to be a male spartan/elite.

But the same thing would still probaly happen, The guys will set there thing to female, but may not want to have to be a female spartan all the time so it may make them not want to do it and just be GUY for once. So this way can go either way I guess... depends on how stuborn they are.

[SilentBow]

yeh that cud happen but not everyone on xbl iz gonna be honest about wat sex they are. But thats a pretty tight idea.

[xi Apocalypse ix]

Dual Energy Swoords

[JAY R0CK 71]

Dual Energy Swoords


not really...

[justinbaily]

For example phantasy star online let you create a female ,male or robot avitar and
i created girl chacters because as in fighting games girls are better balanced...whereas
guys are usuially all power and slower girls while still powerful have more agility/speed
even pso was like this because girls came out as better balanced than guys.

Besides if your a guy who wouldn't rather look at a girl avitar over some guy....halo 3 will likely be little diffrence as the female spartin from doa will likely be used as the template for base female spartin though i'm unsure as to the level of custimization we'll have.

Remember as a rule female chacters are better balanced than their male conterparts.

[Seatownstriker]

Well if you ever read any of the halo books. You would know master Chief is pretty balanced as far as speed and strength goes. Reflexes like spiderman, and strength like superman. Not to mention the suit enhances all their abilities. And their bones are covered in a sort of metal type mesh, think wolverine.

[Raevn]

Well if you ever read any of the halo books. You would know master Chief is pretty balanced as far as speed and strength goes. Reflexes like spiderman, and strength like superman. Not to mention the suit enhances all their abilities. And their bones are covered in a sort of metal type mesh, think wolverine.
Yep, certain Spartans were better in some areas than other, but the Chief is kind of the middle point of it all.

[fishman550]

the books own :D i read them all and if you were gonna go by the book you would choose characters, Linda, Grace, John, Fred etc and each would have their own plus points, but that wouldnt be good for the game so they should keep it the same and just add more skins maybe? and they should put in B-O-T-S ffs halo needs bots god damn it!!!

[Mormon Boy]

I kinda hope that they make it harder to snipe like how it was in the first halo. I mean in halo 2 it is way to easy to snipe, also bungie needs to get their own servers so their won't be host advantage anymore that would make online a lot better.

[JAY R0CK 71]

For example phantasy star online let you create a female ,male or robot avitar and
i created girl chacters because as in fighting games girls are better balanced...whereas
guys are usuially all power and slower girls while still powerful have more agility/speed
even pso was like this because girls came out as better balanced than guys.

Besides if your a guy who wouldn't rather look at a girl avitar over some guy....halo 3 will likely be little diffrence as the female spartin from doa will likely be used as the template for base female spartin though i'm unsure as to the level of custimization we'll have.

Remember as a rule female chacters are better balanced than their male conterparts.


i complete and utterly disagree. thats a terrible rule. first of all, i feel that they both have advantages and disadvantages. better balanced isnt a good way to put it. guys arent usually all power, and saying that makes for a bad arguement. first of all, in fighting games, there is like one guy whos slow and powerful. or 2, w/e. ill use doa as an example. ok, i havent played doa 4, but 3 works. bass! hes very slow, but his moves disable and are hard to read. excellent balance. and my favorite, Hayate. hes one of the most powerful. not power in general. his balance is awsome. hes fast and agile. counters are good. and of course, the ninjutsu moves are hard to read. but im not saying guys are better. ayane, the girl i use in the game is the fastest. her moves are the hardest to read. but her moves are so weak its not funny. lol. this arguement goes with most things. ok, mario kart. mario and luigi are the most balanced and then theres bowser and peach. (top speed and acceleration) with role playing! the girls are usually the healers, unless told otherwise. they can fight and do w/e, but dont say which are better in the long run cz in the long run, it depends on the player.

ok, that aside, i have a suggestion for the thread i started, lol. look sensitivity should change the way your player looks. this adds to the whole personality of your spartan/elite.

[Lindsayxcore]

I really really really want halo 3 to have a female spartan. If it doesn't I think I'ma cry. ;) lol:p

[Apoth3osis]

...Bungie needs to get their own servers so their won't be host advantage anymore that would make online a lot better.

In your dreams (and Bungie's as well). The cost for running enough servers to host the millions of people who play on a daily basis would be far more expensive than Bungie would be willing to spend... I think :rolleyes:.

[H2O Tyrant Sparda]

not sure if any of you have already said this but they should havemore characters to choose from for multy player and maybe for offline should have bots, as for the more characters, they should have some more other spartans and those soldiers from the second game, the ones in black when the cheif goes in with a rocket in that small capsule

[Raevn]

I really really really want halo 3 to have a female spartan. If it doesn't I think I'ma cry. ;) lol:p
You do realize the only difference there would be is voice right?

[JAY R0CK 71]

just throw one in there to make people happy anyway.

besides, im scared of that riots that will start if they dont:confused:

[justinbaily]

Well ,at least , in pso stats were right there and looking at guys vs girls lady's came out as better balanced and as for the fighting thing you can add imo before the rule but i still stand by the rule that dev's pump guys up and give girl's less power but more agailty which can be used to edge out guy chacters anyday.

[Lindsayxcore]

You do realize the only difference there would be is voice right?
Eh, no. Dude a female spartan wouldn't have a cup! LMAO, master cheif does, haven't you realized that yet? Crouch down to one of your buddies next time and woo a cup!?! LOL, no, the female would look and speak differently. :p :)

[Raevn]

Eh, no. Dude a female spartan wouldn't have a cup! LMAO, master cheif does, haven't you realized that yet? Crouch down to one of your buddies next time and woo a cup!?! LOL, no, the female would look and speak differently. :p :)
Uh, yes.

Female Spartan http://img.engadget.com/common/images/3060000000050418.JPG?0.2178210104m0387558
Male Spartan - http://ebriones.typepad.com/le_premier_blog_dun_plann/images/halo2_wp_800x600.jpg

No. Difference.

[JAY R0CK 71]

Well ,at least , in pso stats were right there and looking at guys vs girls lady's came out as better balanced and as for the fighting thing you can add imo before the rule but i still stand by the rule that dev's pump guys up and give girl's less power but more agailty which can be used to edge out guy chacters anyday.


damn quintison, your bein sexist and you forgot what team your on, haha
a power can beat a speed dude. it depends on the player, so this "anyday crap" goes both ways. lets see, a really big football star vs, well, the worlds fastest woman. hmmm lets think about that one for a sec

[icy]

Uh, yes.

Female Spartan http://img.engadget.com/common/images/3060000000050418.JPG?0.2178210104m0387558
Male Spartan - http://ebriones.typepad.com/le_premier_blog_dun_plann/images/halo2_wp_800x600.jpg

No. Difference.

well maybe they'll change it in halo 3's case.

[Lindsayxcore]

Uh, yes.

Female Spartan http://img.engadget.com/common/images/3060000000050418.JPG?0.2178210104m0387558
Male Spartan - http://ebriones.typepad.com/le_premier_blog_dun_plann/images/halo2_wp_800x600.jpg

No. Difference.
Eh no. That female pic was from DOA4 not halo. The people who made DOA aren't the same people who made halo. Exactly harper.:)

[Raevn]

Eh no. That female pic was from DOA4 not halo. The people who made DOA aren't the same people who made halo. Exactly harper.:)
The female Spartan in DoA4 was made with direct input from Bungie.

Read the books please, the Spartans all wear the EXACT same armor.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MJOLNIR_battle_armor
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spartan_II

They look no different, male or female. The armor is exactly the same.

[JAY R0CK 71]

besides, doa is japs, and bungie is american! lol. tho im suprised, not hatin, but typically in jap games, everything is bigger if you catch what im sayin. eh, its all good. maybe they can make the visor clear so you can see a girls face. that would be way cool cz no diadvantage. just a face! woot! im a genious. hahahahahahaha, yeah. k, im done. but yeah, different face in visor cz its clear. and slight change in design. plus the look sensitivity thing. omg, im cool. imagin that. different girls and boys. werrd

[Raevn]

besides, doa is japs, and bungie is american! lol. tho im suprised, not hatin, but typically in jap games, everything is bigger if you catch what im sayin. eh, its all good. maybe they can make the visor clear so you can see a girls face. that would be way cool cz no diadvantage. just a face! woot! im a genious. hahahahahahaha, yeah. k, im done. but yeah, different face in visor cz its clear. and slight change in design. plus the look sensitivity thing. omg, im cool. imagin that. different girls and boys. werrd
Actually, there are at least 3 female Spartans in the canon periphery. Kelly and Linda from the books, and Nicole-458 from Dead Or Alive 4.

However, those who have played DOA4 know there's not really any difference in the way they look.

Just thought I'd throw that in. I'm going to stay out of the rest of this discussion- particularly the spam.
I'm unable to edit my other post to add this, but here you go.

[Rip]

Raevn is correct, and lets try to stay on topic here people....although this is a hard topic to stay on in the first place.

[Lindsayxcore]

Well, I'm just saying how can he be correct? It doesn't really matter what the armor looks like in HALO 2. This is halo 3 not 2. So it can change, so no one is really wrong here. I'm saying that a female spartan having a bottom armor part like that??? WTF? half man half woman. :confused: A chick would not have that big of a lower armor protection like that. She doesn't need it. lol, Thank you I think I made a point just now. :)

[Raevn]

Well, I'm just saying how can he be correct? It doesn't really matter what the armor looks like in HALO 2. This is halo 3 not 2. So it can change, so no one is really wrong here. I'm saying that a female spartan having a bottom armor part like that??? WTF? half man half woman. :confused: A chick would not have that big of a lower armor protection like that. She doesn't need it. lol, Thank you I think I made a point just now. :)
You made no point whatsoever. The point is, the story behind the games is what determines what everything looks like. Just because it's a sequel, does not mean they suddenly throw the current story out the window. This is not what the armor looks like in, as you so put it, HALO 2. It's what the armor looks like in the Halo UNIVERSE.

Kthnxbai.

[Hatori Hanzo]

Well, I'm just saying how can he be correct? It doesn't really matter what the armor looks like in HALO 2. This is halo 3 not 2. So it can change, so no one is really wrong here. I'm saying that a female spartan having a bottom armor part like that??? WTF? half man half woman. :confused: A chick would not have that big of a lower armor protection like that. She doesn't need it. lol, Thank you I think I made a point just now. :)



WTB more noobs plz.

[Lindsayxcore]

Ok, whatever I think your wrong mmmkay thanks bye I'm not gonna argue over something that probably won't even happen. (halo 3 might not even have a female) and if it does I all most promise you that the female will NOT look like the male spartan. LMAO, if it does then thats kinda dumb. :) anyways in what I'm reading your wrong I'm right. thanks an g-night :rolleyes:

[Raevn]

Ok, whatever I think your wrong mmmkay thanks bye I'm not gonna argue over something that probably won't even happen. (halo 3 might not even have a female) and if it does I all most promise you that the female will NOT look like the male spartan. LMAO, if it does then thats kinda dumb. :) anyways in what I'm reading your wrong I'm right. thanks an g-night :rolleyes:
And I promise you that they will look exactly the same, as they always have.

GG.

[Hatori Hanzo]

Ok, whatever I think your wrong mmmkay thanks bye I'm not gonna argue over something that probably won't even happen. (halo 3 might not even have a female) and if it does I all most promise you that the female will NOT look like the male spartan. LMAO, if it does then thats kinda dumb. :) anyways in what I'm reading your wrong I'm right. thanks an g-night :rolleyes:


Hawthorne Heights much?

Female Spartan....

I can hear Bungie /wrists right now.

[JAY R0CK 71]

cool it ladies, these are suggestions. haha. your all wrong anyway cz these are frigin suggestions. whant me to say it again

[Kal-El]

How can these be suggestions? I'm pretty sure no Bungie Dev will be looking at any of these idea since 1) they didn't ask for them and 2) They'd look for suggestions posted on Bungie forums 3) They've already got the story planned out and then game's probably over 75% complete (not including debugging and beta tests and whatnot) so it's too late for "suggestions."

These are hopes and/or dreams at most. If they aren't already in the game, no way any of it will make it in. It's like suggesting a little kid go to the bathroom when he's already peed his pants. It's too late.

Raevn is probably right about the female spartan thing. He's read the books, so he's a Halo Guru. However, If there is a female spartan in the game, Bungie will probably make it actually look like a female.

No use fighting about it anymore. Dex has spoken.

[Hatori Hanzo]

cool it ladies, these are suggestions. haha. your all wrong anyway cz these are frigin suggestions. whant me to say it again



Ladies? Seriously, calm down.
What are you new here?

[Hatori Hanzo]

No use fighting about it anymore. Dex has spoken.


Doesn't count, your Canadian.

<3 Dex =)

[CaptainDemon]

whatever, you are arguing over a videogame. It's not that much of a firestarter. Immaturity not needed by some of you as well.

[Lindsayxcore]

I'm cool, I'm just saying that a female should look like a female and a male should look like a male. Dex said "they should make the female spartan look like a female spartan." exactly! Thats what I've been saying but everyone is saying I'm wrong. :rolleyes: Oh well it doesn't matter. It's just a duimb character in halo.:) Oh and I wasn't really argueing or getting mad. I was just stating a point. A chick should look like a chick and a dude should look like a dude. Ok thats over move on with the thread. lol gesh

[Devolution]

I'd just like to remind folks to keep it civil and please no vulgarities regarding sexuality.

[Lindsayxcore]

I meant a chick in halo should look like a chick and yeah yada yada yada.

[Devolution]

Well I was looking at earlier posts and replies.

[Lindsayxcore]

What did I say? lol, If I said anything that offended someone I didn't mean to. :o

[Dizzydude]

I say leave the skins to Elite and MC only, yea it would be fun for a bit playing as a hunter or a grunt (wtf) but then the characters would be very uneven. You look at an Elite and a Spartan and they're pretty similar, yea the Elite's head is lower, but they're very close.

Also make REAL weapon balancing. Making a Covenant counterpart to every Human weapon is not balancing, it's basically just having the same weapon in a different skin. I've talked about this with a couple people, and it's true. You look at PDZ, that is good weapon balancing. The little details are really thought out. For example, if you're carrying a big weapon, you run slower, they take longer to reload but they're powerful.

Once again, take out the auto-aim, PDZ has an almost unnoticable amount of auto-aim and yet it's still fun. It just takes PRACTICE. Splinter Cell and DOA have extremely sharp learning curves, but that really seperates the new comers to the game and the seasoned people who have played it for a while. I mean DOA is a little bit crazy in how you have to learn, but you just gotta practice. At least now with the new Splinter Cell there is a whole new Tutorial mode in multiplayer which will really help those new to the series (or even to Double Agent itself, since it is like a brand new game) pick this game up quick. I know Bungie was really just trying to make it so everyone could pick it up and play, but the line between seasoned Halo 2 player and new comer is very thin, compared to it's predecessor.

Make the guns more realistic: recoil (especially with the sniper. I know you're a super-soldier, but c'mon if the lame SMG's force you in a constant upward battle, then the sniper rifle should too), cocking the gun (I know it's small, but it really does help add to the realism), and some of the guns sound pretty bad haha.

I think they should get the Master Chief to walk faster, in Halo 1 you zoomed along (yet jumped shallow), now in Halo 2 you run terribly slow.

I like the no health system and the no fall damage idea, those are good.

I think the grenades and rockets should be more powerful. In Halo 1 they rocked people hard with the frags that shook your screen, and same with the rocket launcher. I liked it a lot better in Halo 1 how the Rockets did more damage, but fired slower in between shots instead of firing faster (which don't even shake your screen, making it feel like you have a pea shooter), doing less damage and locking on as well. I don't mind the locking on feature, but the driver of the vehicle should get a little warning when he's locked on to or something to keep the intensity up (like in Battlefield 2), but keep the speed of the rockets up really high.

Finally on my short list of what I'd like for Halo 3, and hopes that Bungie delivers is a better Campaign. Let me start off by saying that Halo 1's campaign rocked. It was intense; it kept the speed up, it was epic and unique; you really remembered parts of it including a lot of parts which made you go, "holy FunnyBunnyFunnyBunnyFunnyBunnyFunnyBunny!" (like the MAW ending with the Warthog chase), it was switched up and it actually felt like you were doing something.
I didn't really dig Halo 2's campaign. It started out pretty cool, being in a low gravity situation, and got better when you landed on Earth; alright this is good, then it got to the Arbiter which was a big surprise, and was pretty cool. Yet somewhere in this formula, the whole thing felt... boring. I reallly had a hard time finishing it. The story was great, didn't mind the ending at all, but something about it lacked the zest that it's predecessor had. I loved the idea of fighting on Earth, yet when only a couple levels are based on Earth and then you get shot back out into space, I didn't find that fun at all. This is supposed to be humanities last struggle (Halo 3 alludes to huge Earth battles, lets hope they keep their promise), not a couple of ships dropping off some troops and you just tearing through them. This is supposed to be a HUGE battle.
That's the thing, there were no big, epic (Assault on the Control Room type) battles. You were stuck doing the same thing, stuck doing boring objectives and in the end it wasn't fulfilling at all.

Not to mention the flood. Yes they're a cool character, but we already saw this in Halo 1 (a crazy level known as 343 Guilty Spark), it was extremely anti-climatic, and when I knew they were coming I'm like "Oh come on!" (you have to see Arrested Development). No I was really just like, "Aww", kind of disappointed in a way.
And WTF was up with those drones!? They are the crappiest characters that I have seen in a long time. They were like the movie, The Village (which I disliked greatly) squished into stupid. They just appeared out of nowhere, no explanation whatsoever, it was like Bungie had way too many ideas and they crammed them in without thinking about them first. You're supposed to slowly add cool elements which reintroduce you to the Halo series, you're not supposed to slam a FunnyBunnyFunnyBunnyFunnyBunnyFunnyBunnyload of new things, completely different gameplay elements into an already well established series. This is Halo 2, not Alien Fighter.

That's another thing that Halo 2 lacked, which it's predecessor basked in. You fought through for the story in Halo 1, you're the one who put together all the pieces of the story and made sense of them. Halo 2 spoon fed everything to you bit by bit. Plus if you notice the pacing of Halo 2, every part of it is all very similar while Halo 1 was very different throughout the course of the campaign.

As I was going through Halo 2's campaign, in the back of my mind I realized that this isn't the Halo that I knew. This isn't the Halo that I grew accustomed to playing and loved for it's unique style. The thing is that Bungie made Halo 2 too mainstream; they pretty much just turned it into a generic FPS. Halo 1 was famous for being something different, it added something new to the FPS genre.

I talked to a good buddy of mine and he agreed that the campaign was missing that pazaaz that the original had.

Sequels usually tend to build on an already successful formula and add to it, they're not supposed to change the formula all together, change the ingredients and then add some generic ideas and call that a sequel. Sequels are an evolution, not an upgrade.

[PMS Chocolate]

wow . . . idk if my eyes can handle all that . . . wow. . . may i just congratulate your effort w/out reading it? lol

[Devolution]

Halo 2 got rid of night vision sniping. That was awesome. I was angry =(.

[Dizzydude]

REEAAAD IT!

My fingers needed some exercise.

[Lindsayxcore]

lol, spartan I totally agree.

[PMS Chocolate]

i did, nice work . . . . . very creative too :)

[Dizzydude]

Thank you. Now don't you feel better? The curiousity would've killed me if I saw such a grand post.

[PMS Chocolate]

Thank you. Now don't you feel better? The curiousity would've killed me if I saw such a grand post.


hahaha . .. yeah, i'm sorry . .. i was just teasing, as usual. it's good to see posts w/so much analysis . . . but i'm tired, and just can't handle anymore analysis at the moment . .. so i'll get back on tomorrow, lol or actually, later today :) night all!

[JAY R0CK 71]

wow . . . idk if my eyes can handle all that . . . wow. . . may i just congratulate your effort w/out reading it? lol


haha, thats what i did. ill read it in parts:)

[Kal-El]

I say leave the skins to Elite and MC only, yea it would be fun for a bit playing as a hunter or a grunt (wtf) but then the characters would be very uneven. You look at an Elite and a Spartan and they're pretty similar, yea the Elite's head is lower, but they're very close.

Also make REAL weapon balancing. Making a Covenant counterpart to every Human weapon is not balancing, it's basically just having the same weapon in a different skin. I've talked about this with a couple people, and it's true. You look at PDZ, that is good weapon balancing. The little details are really thought out. For example, if you're carrying a big weapon, you run slower, they take longer to reload but they're powerful.

Once again, take out the auto-aim, PDZ has an almost unnoticable amount of auto-aim and yet it's still fun. It just takes PRACTICE. Splinter Cell and DOA have extremely sharp learning curves, but that really seperates the new comers to the game and the seasoned people who have played it for a while. I mean DOA is a little bit crazy in how you have to learn, but you just gotta practice. At least now with the new Splinter Cell there is a whole new Tutorial mode in multiplayer which will really help those new to the series (or even to Double Agent itself, since it is like a brand new game) pick this game up quick. I know Bungie was really just trying to make it so everyone could pick it up and play, but the line between seasoned Halo 2 player and new comer is very thin, compared to it's predecessor.

Make the guns more realistic: recoil (especially with the sniper. I know you're a super-soldier, but c'mon if the lame SMG's force you in a constant upward battle, then the sniper rifle should too), cocking the gun (I know it's small, but it really does help add to the realism), and some of the guns sound pretty bad haha.

I think they should get the Master Chief to walk faster, in Halo 1 you zoomed along (yet jumped shallow), now in Halo 2 you run terribly slow.

I like the no health system and the no fall damage idea, those are good.

I think the grenades and rockets should be more powerful. In Halo 1 they rocked people hard with the frags that shook your screen, and same with the rocket launcher. I liked it a lot better in Halo 1 how the Rockets did more damage, but fired slower in between shots instead of firing faster (which don't even shake your screen, making it feel like you have a pea shooter), doing less damage and locking on as well. I don't mind the locking on feature, but the driver of the vehicle should get a little warning when he's locked on to or something to keep the intensity up (like in Battlefield 2), but keep the speed of the rockets up really high.

Finally on my short list of what I'd like for Halo 3, and hopes that Bungie delivers is a better Campaign. Let me start off by saying that Halo 1's campaign rocked. It was intense; it kept the speed up, it was epic and unique; you really remembered parts of it including a lot of parts which made you go, "holy FunnyBunnyFunnyBunnyFunnyBunnyFunnyBunny!" (like the MAW ending with the Warthog chase), it was switched up and it actually felt like you were doing something.
I didn't really dig Halo 2's campaign. It started out pretty cool, being in a low gravity situation, and got better when you landed on Earth; alright this is good, then it got to the Arbiter which was a big surprise, and was pretty cool. Yet somewhere in this formula, the whole thing felt... boring. I reallly had a hard time finishing it. The story was great, didn't mind the ending at all, but something about it lacked the zest that it's predecessor had. I loved the idea of fighting on Earth, yet when only a couple levels are based on Earth and then you get shot back out into space, I didn't find that fun at all. This is supposed to be humanities last struggle (Halo 3 alludes to huge Earth battles, lets hope they keep their promise), not a couple of ships dropping off some troops and you just tearing through them. This is supposed to be a HUGE battle.
That's the thing, there were no big, epic (Assault on the Control Room type) battles. You were stuck doing the same thing, stuck doing boring objectives and in the end it wasn't fulfilling at all.

Not to mention the flood. Yes they're a cool character, but we already saw this in Halo 1 (a crazy level known as 343 Guilty Spark), it was extremely anti-climatic, and when I knew they were coming I'm like "Oh come on!" (you have to see Arrested Development). No I was really just like, "Aww", kind of disappointed in a way.
And WTF was up with those drones!? They are the crappiest characters that I have seen in a long time. They were like the movie, The Village (which I disliked greatly) squished into stupid. They just appeared out of nowhere, no explanation whatsoever, it was like Bungie had way too many ideas and they crammed them in without thinking about them first. You're supposed to slowly add cool elements which reintroduce you to the Halo series, you're not supposed to slam a FunnyBunnyFunnyBunnyFunnyBunnyFunnyBunnyload of new things, completely different gameplay elements into an already well established series. This is Halo 2, not Alien Fighter.

That's another thing that Halo 2 lacked, which it's predecessor basked in. You fought through for the story in Halo 1, you're the one who put together all the pieces of the story and made sense of them. Halo 2 spoon fed everything to you bit by bit. Plus if you notice the pacing of Halo 2, every part of it is all very similar while Halo 1 was very different throughout the course of the campaign.

As I was going through Halo 2's campaign, in the back of my mind I realized that this isn't the Halo that I knew. This isn't the Halo that I grew accustomed to playing and loved for it's unique style. The thing is that Bungie made Halo 2 too mainstream; they pretty much just turned it into a generic FPS. Halo 1 was famous for being something different, it added something new to the FPS genre.

I talked to a good buddy of mine and he agreed that the campaign was missing that pazaaz that the original had.

Sequels usually tend to build on an already successful formula and add to it, they're not supposed to change the formula all together, change the ingredients and then add some generic ideas and call that a sequel. Sequels are an evolution, not an upgrade.

That's what the american culture is. You're spoon fed stories and plots, so you can sit there shoving a fist full of potatoe chips into your face and let the story seep in. That way anyone can watch it. Bungie saw that Halo 1 was a winner, so they set out to get even more people to play. They made it easier, they shoved the story at you. Ask anyone that's a Halo fan why they like halo, and they'll say they like the story and the fact that anyone can pick it up and play. Yes anyone can pick it up and play.... AND BE GOOD AT IT! IMO that doesn't make for a good game. It makes for an easy game. Easy doesn't mean good.

I hope they go back to their roots when making Halo 3 and make it more like the first rather than take the second and make it even easier or something.

PS: It wasn't that much to read. It reads well, so it went quick. You spell out your words instead of using "cz," "u," "r," ect. That alone really helped :P

[H2O Xyanyde]

Dizzydude, I think you are giving halo 1 too much credit... Think about the missions in that game... there was like, five levels, and they made you go through them each twice to make a the game seem long. Dont get me wrong, I loved it, but I think the fact that they couldnt just make more levels, instead of recycling.

Anyway, Halo three should have unicorns with fuel rod cannons. Why not? Oblivion had a unicorn, halo 3 should have one too.

[Dizzydude]

That's what the american culture is. You're spoon fed stories and plots, so you can sit there shoving a fist full of potatoe chips into your face and let the story seep in. That way anyone can watch it. Bungie saw that Halo 1 was a winner, so they set out to get even more people to play. They made it easier, they shoved the story at you. Ask anyone that's a Halo fan why they like halo, and they'll say they like the story and the fact that anyone can pick it up and play. Yes anyone can pick it up and play.... AND BE GOOD AT IT! IMO that doesn't make for a good game. It makes for an easy game. Easy doesn't mean good.

I hope they go back to their roots when making Halo 3 and make it more like the first rather than take the second and make it even easier or something.

PS: It wasn't that much to read. It reads well, so it went quick. You spell out your words instead of using "cz," "u," "r," ect. That alone really helped :P

No kidding. I like stories where you actually have to be active and understand yourself, you don't have some character explaining everything to you (yes in Halo 1 343 GS described a lot of the plot when you were going through that level as he led you through it, but it fit with what was going on. You still had to come up with your own conclusions). Arrested Development was awesome because you really had to pay attention to the story from episode to episode and have a grasp on real-world concepts. It was extremely smart humor.

I don't know if it was Bungie's idea that if they made it easier they could get more people into it so maybe in their minds it meant more money for them. I don't know if they got a little carried away with the fact that Halo 1 was a huge success so they tried to make this too good, which really made it worse in my opinion. They really did fix what wasn't broke.

That's all they need to do is look at Halo 1, looked at what worked and didn't, look at Halo 2 and look at what worked and didn't and then create a hybrid of the two.

ya it wuznt long at all, glad u fnd it ez 2 read.


EDIT To Xyanyde:

I was waiting for someone to come up with that. :p

Yes in Halo 1 there were some recycling of levels (Pillar of Autumn - The MAW, AotCR - Two Betrayals). But if you look beyond that, what you had to do was totally different. The gameplay was changed quite a bit. I can see how people would look at it as a negative thing, but it wasn't too bad since you were doing something different. I'd rather have a game that uses a few recycled levels (they probably did this to save time in development) then have a game with totally different levels that was boring and played pretty slow.

I give Halo 1 more credit than Halo 2 because in the end, I had more fun with Halo 1.

P.S: How will these unicorns shoot these fuel rod cannons? They would need some sort of thumb transplant or something, hmmm. Super-soldier unicorns, eh? Not bad. Not bad at all...

[Kicker of Tale]

They should make a spartan ACT like a spartan by this I mean since they can run upwards to 50 MPH then they should be able to do that in the game

A run or sprint button would be nice

Also they should be able to jump a tad bit higher

It would be nice if you could pick a different type of spartan skin wise for male and female

And to really top off the list in the book they have the master cheif slapping an incoming ground to air missle away that was launched from an attack helicopter. I too would like to have that somehow incorporated into the game itself

but i'm sure thats not possible

[icy]

I agree with you Dizzydude. Before I got grounded I stopped playing Halo 2 everyday to play Halo 1. Everytime I played Halo 1 the time I spent playing it got longer and longer. I didn't remember how much fun I had playing it till I picked it up and played it again after playing Halo 2 for two straight years. The campaign on easy is harder than the Halo 2 campaign on normal. I do hope they make Halo 3 more like the first one, I'd like a little bit of challenge in my campaign.

@kicker - I like your idea for the different skins of male and female spartans.

[H2O SkywalkerX]

basically take halo 1. improve the graphics ten fold. change the campaign. and edit the weapons a LITTLE bit. and add the alien sniper. and walla. perfect game.

The campaign on easy is harder than the Halo 2 campaign on normal. I do hope they make Halo 3 more like the first one, I'd like a little bit of challenge in my campaign.

i disagree. the halo2 campaign is a LOT harder. especially on legendary, halo1 legendary i could beat in like maybe 5 hours. but halo2 probably 8. not saying the campaign is better, cause it DEFFINATLY is not, but it is harder.

[icy]

^^^^ exactly!

[H2O SkywalkerX]

read my edit.

[icy]

I read and I do agree with you. I guess when I was playing Halo 1 campaign I was so used to the differences in the Halo 2 controls that it made it harder on my playing ability.

[H2O Xyanyde]

Halo 2 isnt as loved as the first due to the fact that people had such high expectations. They wanted the excitement that the first halo had, and more! Halo 1 was so awesome because it was a new console experience. Halo 2 couldnt emulate that same feeling because its basic formula had been mimicked countless times since the release of halo 1.

And isnt it obvious how the unicorn would shoot the cannons? Through the horn of course! Honestly though, it would be cool to have an armored horse in halo 3... like a master chief horse with armor on it. With a fuel rod horn, and motorcycles for legs. That way, five people can ride!

[icy]

for some reason I don't like that idea......

hmmmm

[H2O Xyanyde]

Oh! Halo needs water levels, and water vehicles... Jet skis, and jet boats! They should have a warthog-esque boat that holds three people for water battles.

[H2O Xyanyde]

(miss harper, isnt it obvious that I was joking about the whole moto-armored unicorn thing?)

[Raevn]

Halo 2 isnt as loved as the first due to the fact that people had such high expectations. They wanted the excitement that the first halo had, and more! Halo 1 was so awesome because it was a new console experience. Halo 2 couldnt emulate that same feeling because its basic formula had been mimicked countless times since the release of halo 1.

And isnt it obvious how the unicorn would shoot the cannons? Through the horn of course! Honestly though, it would be cool to have an armored horse in halo 3... like a master chief horse with armor on it. With a fuel rod horn, and motorcycles for legs. That way, five people can ride!
Not to mention the fact that The Flood did not give me the jitters in Halo 2 like they did in the first one. The first time you meet the flood, you would actually jump and it felt far more exciting. Halo 2 it was all "meh"

[Dizzydude]

I agree that people's expectations were extremely high (including mine), but it's not entirely the people's fault. Bungie released screenshots and talked about a lot of things that we'd be able to do and see in Halo 2. A lot of those never made the cut (remember the snow warthog, jungle, etc?). Plus they changed too much from the original.

In Halo 1 when you first came across an Elite wielding a sword, it never magically lunged at you, yet in Halo 2 you are drawn to people...wtf!? I found the campaign boring, a lot of the multiplayer level maps weren't as fun (Containment comes no where near Sidewinder) and the auto-aim, for me, made this a short-lived game compared to the original.

I'll still go back to Halo 1 and have more fun with it than I've had with Halo 2, multiplayer and single player. I just find it more fun, but that's my opinion.

Hmm, I think you're on to something with the Unicorn. Would it eat the enemies for energy?

[icy]

I agree with you Raevn. If I want the flood to scare me, I play halo 1. The flood in Halo 2 are just too predictable.

[fishman550]

in my opinion halo 2 is the better game, dont start bit*hing at me about which is the better game, i'm entitled to an opinion. i prefer halo 2 as it lasted and continues to last longer than the original because of the multiplayer, sure there are a few kinks to be worked out but its a solid foundation that can only be made better, its kept me entertained since it was released, i liked both halo CE and halo 2's campaigns the same both had their good and bad points, nothings perfect, but halo 2 multiplayer is so much better because of live and the fast pacedness of it, halo 1 with live would just be pistolfest:o

[JAY R0CK 71]

i like your suggestions. and to add one, id like the player to be able to melee a grenade back to the player who threw it, this would add skill, especially because of the hot potatoe games you could play, haha

[fishman550]

then plasmas would be pretty much useless and the sword would become even more ultimate as it can melee perpetually...

[JAY R0CK 71]

no fishman, you cant melee kick can you? besides, sword kills in one anyway

[fishman550]

no fishman, you cant melee kick can you? besides, sword kills in one anyway

kick? what you talkin' 'bout boy?

[JAY R0CK 71]

haha, if i throw a plasma at your foot your going down buddy. or if i stick your back, aka, anywhere but your chest. my idea rocks and you know it

[fishman550]

no 'cause if someones throwing plasma 'nades at you you can run straight at them and hit them back, maybe if they stuck to your shields and if your shields went down they fell off?

[JAY R0CK 71]

hey buddy, i just want to be able to stick you with your own nade, b/c of a good move i did. im talkn it would bounce back. if you threw it at me from acroos the map, id try to hit it so it would come back to you. if ur still there, ur stuck. idea! kicks butt

[fishman550]

why not just make halo baseball? pretty much what your describing

[icy]

hmmm. I just wish the plasma pistol wasn't so powerful. Taking down both oversheild and regular sheild in one blast? BS, majorly.

[fishman550]

lol yeah it should take down one shield at a time, one full shield say your overshield was halfway between green and pink, it should go down to half pink half blue ya?

Also i want some water levels as mentioned before somewhere, would be sweet to see the opposing forces (16 vs 16) emerging from a giant lake between the bases and Amphibi-hogs zipping around with their chain guns ripping the water apart and the flag flying as it races back to your base and is taken out by a floating mine, that would be kick FunnyBunnyFunnyBunnyFunnyBunny:D

[JAY R0CK 71]

not baseball fishman, ur takin it outta hand, thers no setup. someone throws a grenade at you, and with good timing, whack, theyre eatin explosions for a week, haha.

plasma pistol should do what it does. i like it. ur prob mad cz you get new combo'd.

no execption to overshield. cz it has one job only take out shield. it doesnt kill.

[icy]

Everyone uses the noob combo now and it's become a Nuisance in my eyes. The need to lower the power intensity just a bit.

[JAY R0CK 71]

most of the time, its used on a reg shield so youd still die anyway.

i could just say lower a stickys power cz it kills me

[icy]

no!!

[JAY R0CK 71]

lol, i dont wanna get you mad harper. lets agree to disagree huh, then we all get ice cream on me!:)

[icy]

that works for me!

[JAY R0CK 71]

yay! dairy queen! haha. im gettin a blizzard.( i should stop spamming like this, lol)

[icy]

yeah we should what else is there to talk about that we'd like there to be in Halo 3.

that was a messed up sentence.

[JAY R0CK 71]

haha so you kept it!?

any who, put dinosaurs you can ride, wtf. lol, idk. somethin

imagine being a hunter online!!!!

and give him a knife for god sake, someone said that but why not. its rated M, and all of us besides *ahem harper*cough* are mature enough


umm, idc anymore. i just wanna play it

[fishman550]

i reckon they should give the sword 10 times the range and make the sniper one hit kill and the pistol should 1 shot people aswell, br should be automatic and have inf ammo, rockets should be automatic aswell, and have a 10 ammo clip also, the scorpion should move as fast a ghost and be able to fly

[justinbaily]

Well if you've ever played metroid prime/echoes sometimes if you shoot you can see samus's face reflected in the visor for a split second-a very cool effect.
I wonder if the face mapping with the cam would be in multi-player and if they'd have this reflecting on the outside so when shot you could see your enemy.

BTW i was talking from personal experience,sexist-never...much like my southpaw
it's a personal play style but,to me,dev's make girls a better all around balance
when conpared with the guy chacters....agree,disagree it's my opion...besides
all spartins being supersoldgers this would diminish that effect to the point of non-egsistance.
In halo guys/girls will proabably be identical to play....i seriously doubt bungie will give girls a faster run,longer jump than guys but we'll see.

[JAY R0CK 71]

well, unless bungie looks at these, 10 bucks says they dont give a damn. and you know what!!!!! yeah thats what! haha, im so mean. i started this thread and now im putting down suggestions.


im jk. keep postin. im angry though:mad:

[icy]

all of us besides *ahem harper*cough* are mature enough
What are you talking about? I'm mature.

besides
all spartins being supersoldgers this would diminish that effect to the point of non-egsistance.
In halo guys/girls will proabably be identical to play....i seriously doubt bungie will give girls a faster run,longer jump than guys but we'll see.
I just want them to make girls seem more feminine, so people would see and know the difference. Making the female spartans faster and higher jumpers would be an unfair disadvatage.

[JAY R0CK 71]

just kidden harper. i hope non offense was taken:)

dont want to start forum wars again:confused:

[MiZz Psych0]

Yeah. I understand what harper is saying. I want my spartan to actually look woman-like. Like just today in team snipers, a kid OBVIOUSLY saw my name (I mean, CutiE PiE, how obvious can you get?) and shot me and said "I shot his balls off!" Videogame or not, I don't want balls. Case closed.

[icy]

I agree in so many ways courtney.

[H2O SkywalkerX]

if there is in fact girl spartans in the campaign (yes they are in the book) then sure there should be girl spartans, but then again that might give girls an advantage because they would be smaller.

[icy]

They don't have to be smaller, just look more feminine. Hell, they don't even have to look sexy, no wiat, I take that back. :D

I'm wondering how they would incorporate female spartans into the campaign, since all of the characters in the story have already been introduced. I'm hoping they don't put anymore new aliens, weapons, or vehicles in the game. There's plenty already.

[Apoth3osis]

... I'm hoping they don't put anymore new aliens, weapons, or vehicles in the game. There's plenty already.



Whaaa? Well maybe not new aliens, but I defenitely want some new weapons, and would be fine w/ new vehicles... besides in Bungie's Weekley What's Update they've already talked about using new weapons in the MP build of Halo 3 that arent in Halo 2.

[icy]

Ok. My post was a bit rash. New weapons would be cool, unless they're noobed up like the sword and plasma pistol.

[H2O SkywalkerX]

They don't have to be smaller, just look more feminine. Hell, they don't even have to look sexy, no wiat, I take that back. :D

I'm wondering how they would incorporate female spartans into the campaign, since all of the characters in the story have already been introduced. I'm hoping they don't put anymore new aliens, weapons, or vehicles in the game. There's plenty already.


they havent introduced all of them. there is always room for new spartans. in fact the spartans are split up with master chief after halo. so in fact, they could come back to help save the world.

[JAY R0CK 71]

still waitin for that day when a real spartan comes down from space like an asteroid an hits your backyard to save the universe arent you?:)

[icy]

I know I am.

they havent introduced all of them. there is always room for new spartans. in fact the spartans are split up with master chief after halo. so in fact, they could come back to help save the world.

That would be awesome if they did that for halo 3. I know the MC can't handle whatI think he's gonna have to handle on his own. Don't ask me what my theories are, it's confidental. :D

[justinbaily]

Well i'm still waiting to see if girls can run faster / jump farther while guys would
melee some1 in less strikes....small diffrences not just the model used in game
but some suttle psycal diffrences between guys/girls might be added.

Would anyone want some suttle diffrences between male/female spartans...how about
between spartan and covinent players could make things more interusting.

[icy]

I see where you're coming from. It would be a good idea.

Since we're talking about them having female spartans, what about female covenant?

[Dizzydude]

How do you know an Elite isn't female ;)

[JAY R0CK 71]

cz man, you ever just look at someone and realize its a girl? i didnt for the elite so ummm, ya. hes a boy.



no subtle diffs. variable's make for unfair gameplay between sexes.

what if im a boy and would be willing to risk pwer for speed. id have to be a girl then?

[icy]

I don't know. Bungie'll figure it out.

[JAY R0CK 71]

haha, ok. its ice cream time again:)

[EpiK SkillZ]

I dont want new vehicles. I hate all vehicles as it is. Vehicles are for badkids. Give me snipe so I can snipe em out of the vechicle=good :D

[JAY R0CK 71]

i dont get that suggestion?

take out wraith and reg. warthog. throw spectre in ranking. and put fuel rod in online. take out brute plasma. add meter to sword.make stickys bouncy.


annnnnd. make jay rock an automatic lvl billion

[EpiK SkillZ]

How do you not get that suggestion. How clear can I be? VEHICLES SUCK! Lol, sorry, just getting that out there. :D

[icy]

I like your "snipe them out of vehicles" approach. I love to do that. :D

[PMS Chocolate]

How do you not get that suggestion. How clear can I be? VEHICLES SUCK! Lol, sorry, just getting that out there. :D


i think you're being a little harsh! how can u not find it fun to drive the warthog around honking and executing mad air time and whatnot? . . . . very fun . .. they don't suck.

[justinbaily]

Well part of the reason halo was so great was the rides were in there...it wasn't a dark coridor shooter....if that's your style play: preay,quake or doom!!!!!

Personally i enjoy vehicles especially the warthog's "air time" anti grav rides arn't any fun because they float but warthog's give you "air time" like a roller coaster-that's fun.

I love running people down in my warthog in blood-gultch or ride friendly mapps.

If all you do is get in position and snipe ALL game long you'll NEVER see the whole map,i'd rather stealthily asasinate some1 from behind or shoot em with a shotty
but i want to be in my enemy's face more than not,sniping's o.k. but i wouldn't want to do it all night long...let alone all match long.

[EpiK SkillZ]

i think you're being a little harsh! how can u not find it fun to drive the warthog around honking and executing mad air time and whatnot? . . . . very fun . .. they don't suck.

Lol, no I'm not harsh. I'm a lil angry kid with a BAD ATTITUDE :D!!!!! GRRRR! *Angry Face* Sorry I've been actin like this all day. You should check out the Count to 1 Million thread. Me, harper, mob blondie and skywalker basically ruined it lol

But seriously, i really dont like the vehicles, they bore me and i always die in em

[Kal-El]

what if im a boy and would be willing to risk pwer for speed. id have to be a girl then?

Why would it matter? If you want to sacrifice power for speed you'll take the character that give you that no matter what sex it is.

Unless you're the type of person that doesn't play games with girl characters or choose girl characters in games because you're not a girl and to you boys can only choose or play as boy characters. :rolleyes:

Ok. My post was a bit rash. New weapons would be cool, unless they're noobed up like the sword and plasma pistol.

but that's what makes Halo as popular as it is. The fact that it is "all noobed up."

Anyone can pick up the game and rack up a bunch of kills. That's why you've got so many screamy 12 year olds, immature 30 year olds, and people that are just totally stoned and/or drunk playing it.... because it's easy (a.k.a. noobed up) which makes it possible for all the people, who aren't good, mature, patient enough to play anything else, to play Halo.

[Cr4nf0rd]

I don't like the gain more shield as you kill idea. That seems like it would throw off the balance of a round if someone who has killed you now has a greater advantage the next time you fight. It seems like it would just turn every gametype into a round of juggernaut. In all honesty though, I have no complaints regarding Halo 2. If Halo 3 came out with the same play mechanics and an updated graphical look and feel I would be perfectly happy. Some of the ideas like disorentation after melees sound like they would add a deeper sense of immersion to the game especially if they took it further and had different effects for when grenades or rockets went off near you. All I think Bungie really needs to do is cut down on network exploits such as host advantages, which probably can be solved easily through the new Xbox Live.

[TR]

I always wanted to ride one of those shadows

[xi Apocalypse ix]

I always wanted to ride one of those shadows Me too, Im also glad Bungie is returning the classic Assault Rifle. I like the idea of Duel Weilding Swords.:D

[H2O SkywalkerX]

Me too, Im also glad Bungie is returning the classic Assault Rifle. I like the idea of Duel Weilding Swords.:D
you deserve to be slapped

[JAY R0CK 71]

listen bud, its not all noobed up. ya kids play it. ya drunks play it. 10 bucks says im goin on any other online game in the planet and the same thing happens. cept like runescape or w/e. its a pick up and play, like many others. but the reason some are better than others is that it still requires skill and timing to play good, or better.

i really dont care if im a girl spartan or a boy. but i like fairness if there gonna do it this time around.


and thanks spartan. i like "mad air" in warthogs as well. so dont take out my vehicles. cz we need them to jump in containment over snowy hills, while i act like a tour guide, and my tourret is telling me that i need to turn around to shoot them. then we get hit by scorpion fire and flipp back to the middle ages. then we cop a passenger and i tell them if they look to the right they can see robots in thier natural habitat. its 3vs3vs3vs3. they really dont give a damn bout natural habitats but they laugh and get kills.

[EpiK SkillZ]

lol this is a suggestion thread not a "HEY! I SAY I WANT THIS IN MY HALO 3, SO YOU CAN"T BRING UP THAT SUGGESTION!" thread. :)

[icy]

Hey! no. :D

People can dream. I think that the water vehicle idea is pretty cool. The MC needs to learn how to swim. :)

[EpiK SkillZ]

lol that would be a definite plus. Bein able to have like swimming combat. I dunno, that might be gettin into a whole different game. I still wanna have HALO, ya know?

[icy]

True. But water maps would make the game more interesting.

[Kicker of Tale]

i like your suggestions. and to add one, id like the player to be able to melee a grenade back to the player who threw it, this would add skill, especially because of the hot potatoe games you could play, haha


Yeah you should be able to punch or kick the grenade back at someone (not a sticky however)

I am really really pulling for a run button because in the books they make the spartans super fast but in the game everyones just.......jogging.

[Kicker of Tale]

lol that would be a definite plus. Bein able to have like swimming combat. I dunno, that might be gettin into a whole different game. I still wanna have HALO, ya know?


I'm under the impression that water is the spartans kryptonite

[EpiK SkillZ]

lol, cant exactly say that a giant 1 ton metal suit will float well, but hey :)

[icy]

.......Now that I actually thing about it, yeah. MC wouldn't be able to swim, unless he took his armor and helmet off (drool). :D

but do you think he'll take his helmet off at the end?

[EpiK SkillZ]

I dont want him to. What if his physical appearance is.... dissappointing? AHHHH! What if he's a lil 10 year old kid that cusses alot on XBL with voice mask?!?!?!

[icy]

I doubt the would make him like that. His voice is way to sexy to be a voice mask. :D

[EpiK SkillZ]

lol just because the XBL voice mask isnt good, doesnt mean that he can't find a better one to make him sound sexy. I have this voice changer on my PC that changes my voice from deep, to a girl like voice. I used it for CS 1.6 and it worked like a charm. All the guys were hittin on me lol :D

[CajunH2O]

if there is in fact girl spartans in the campaign (yes they are in the book) then sure there should be girl spartans, but then again that might give girls an advantage because they would be smaller.



I dont think the girl Spartans would be too much smaller. Have you played DOA 4? Spartan 458-Nicole, was about the same size as Bass Armstrong.The biggest character in the game. Ok dork moment coming....the spartans were enhanced to be super soldiers and the MJOLNIR armor is big and heavy. And wasnt all that possible to tell Nicole was a girl till she spoke. But who knows what Bungie has planned...

[Genesis11]

Well, for anyone who has read the books, Master Chief (john) is hideous. How could he look nice, being canned up in that suit for so long? Nope- his skin is a gooey white, you can pretty much see his veins through it. Sorry.

And yeah, they wanna keep it semi-believable. So, while I agree water-battles would be cool, they're impractical considering the weight of MJOLNIR.


Speaking of the books, I would really like to have Master Chief standing there, clueless as to how he can possibly win against these odds, and then- out of the sand and dust blowing around behind him, you slowly see the other Spartans walk up. "Hey John, long time no see. We thought you could use some help."

Can you say awesome?

[EpiK SkillZ]

DOES MASTER CHIEF NOT HAVE MUSKLESSSSS!?!?! If he's not a buff guy, then I'm breakin the Halo disc right there...

[Genesis11]

MC has teh muscles. They're just a result of augmentation. First the spartans were genetically enhanced. THEN they were put in the suits.

[Kicker of Tale]

but do you think he'll take his helmet off at the end?
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You know....I hope that doesnt happen because then people will just say its a Samus rip off in some way

[EpiK SkillZ]

lol I didn't even think that until you said it. Now he basically CANT take the helmet off or Bungie will get flamed by angry nerds with hate mail.

In otherwords, Taking off helmet = bad idea

[Kicker of Tale]

Speaking of the books, I would really like to have Master Chief standing there, clueless as to how he can possibly win against these odds, and then- out of the sand and dust blowing around behind him, you slowly see the other Spartans walk up. "Hey John, long time no see. We thought you could use some help."

Can you say awesome?


In regards to the books I was under the impression that Kelly (who went with the doc) Linda and Fred are still alive. (can't remember its been a while since I read the books.

But it would be a fan boy/girls dream to have squad tactics with other spartans with you on campaign mode and ordering them to do all this spectacular crazy cirque de solei type stuff

Like that one time where 3 spartans ended up planting a nuke on board a ship that stopped the ground forces from moving

I would *really* hope that you get to play as other spartans and that they incorporate some sort of squad tactics which could also mean playing campaign on XBL with friends

2007 just seems so dang far away.......I just want to know the story!

[Dizzydude]

I doubt the would make him like that. His voice is way to sexy to be a voice mask. :D

It's a real voice. He's a radio personality in Chicago.

listen bud, its not all noobed up.

http://www.gamespot.com/xbox/action/halo2/video_player.html?id=cHMylzCr5bwKujM

Yes there is a line between long time player and new-comer, but that line is very small.

Oh and the only thing I disagree with is the fall damage, since Halo had health and Halo 2 has only the shield it makes sense that they'd take it out.

I really, really doubt the MC will take off his helmet and show his face, in the last two games it's been a tease, so I think it'll be the same for the next one.

[Kal-El]

listen bud, its not all noobed up. ya kids play it. ya drunks play it. 10 bucks says im goin on any other online game in the planet and the same thing happens. cept like runescape or w/e. its a pick up and play, like many others. but the reason some are better than others is that it still requires skill and timing to play good, or better.

There may be SOME on other games, but no where near the amount of Halo. Isn't there some little 8 year old who's a pro and goes to Halo tournies and WINS? If an 8 year old can do that, then it must not take as much skill as you claim. Yeah a kid that has trouble coloring in the lines... he must be packing oodles of skill. :rolleyes:

You'll obviously argue otherwise because you're a halo fanboy, but they call it a run & gun game for a reason.

PS: before someone goes on about how I'm anti halo. Don't bother. I know I am, and I'm proud. If you don't like it, don't post. These are public forums and when you post you acknowledge that you'll probably get people posting that have opposite views as you do, and they have every right to do so. If you want to discuss Halo with people that have the same opinions about it as you do, go have yourself a chat in the mirror.

I'm more Anti-mainstream than I am anti-halo.

PPS: BTW I'm not 100% anti Halo. The single player/story is pretty cool.

I really, really doubt the MC will take off his helmet and show his face, in the last two games it's been a tease, so I think it'll be the same for the next one.

I agree. That's something they'd probably save for the movie. As a sort of end of it all.

[Kicker of Tale]

PS: before someone goes on about how I'm anti halo. Don't bother. I know I am, and I'm proud. If you don't like it, don't post. These are public forums and when you post you acknowledge that you'll probably get people posting that have opposite views as you do, and they have every right to do so. If you want to discuss Halo with people that have the same opinions about it as you do, go have yourself a chat in the mirror.

I'm more Anti-mainstream than I am anti-halo.

PPS: BTW I'm not 100% anti Halo. The single player/story is pretty cool.


then why be in a thread dedicated towards halo 3 suggestions if you are an anti halo person.

doesn't make sense

[Kal-El]

then why be in a thread dedicated towards halo 3 suggestions if you are an anti halo person.

doesn't make sense

Like I said. I like the single player.

People were talking about "noobing the game up." I said the game was already noobed up and that's why it's so popular. Things that are easy tend to attract a lot of people. I was under the impression that I was allowed to have and post my opinions on a public forum. :rolleyes: Silly me. Wrong again.

[Dizzydude]

Once again check this out: http://www.gamespot.com/xbox/action/...HMylzCr5bwKujM

Just in case you didn't see it..

I'm not anti-Halo at all, I just have fun critiquing the game (halo 2).

[Kal-El]

I just have fun critiquing the game (halo 2).

:eek: how dare you!

[Dizzydude]

Muahaha

Anyway to the topic at hand, keep player models equal in regards to sex and I don't know just make it massive.

[justinbaily]

Sacrifices would be made (trade offs) because i remember bungie was supposed to allow players a dash in halo 2 (when running you couldn't shoot) but it didn't get put in
you were even supposed to be able to peek around corners (again couldn't shoot)
but that was cut as well.

I think you should be able to run n gun but accuracy would drop when running.
Both guys/girls should have a dash/run but girls would run a little faster allowing them to jump bigger gapps than guys could......both should be able to peek around corners,of corse.

Alot of stuff that got nixed was because of the nov 9 store date causing the entire 3rd act to get cut. Halo 3 should be a much more pollished game....bungie having enough time to do whatever they want this go round.

March'll likely come n go without halo 3 but we can hope it doesn't get delayed-
playtesting single player/multiplayer is a good sign though.

[Apoth3osis]

...I think you should be able to run n gun but accuracy would drop when running.
Both guys/girls should have a dash/run but girls would run a little faster allowing them to jump bigger gapps than guys could......both should be able to peek around corners,of corse.

I dono if they should make different "player classes" so to speak. Multiplayer should be an "equal opportunity employer", meaning you shouldent be able to run faster, or jump higher if your character model is female, as anyone who knows what they are doing would just be the character with the best specs. They pseudo-tried this in Halo 2 with the Elites in mp, and look what happened there... head-shots are like 100 gazzilion times easier on Elites, hence they are never used with people who know what they are doing. I think a dash might be cool depending on how they implemented it. If it broke the auto-aim whenever sombody dashed, it could be cool, but then again, it might screw up the pacing of the game alltogether. I like how the pacing of mp is right now, all i think they need to change pacing wise, is make MC run a bit faster, as he feels a bit sluggish, but not like Halo 1 where he was practically "ice-skating". Peeking around corners would be cool, but logically, what button would you press to do it, the only unused buttons are left and right on the d-pad... same with the dash, what button would you press to do it?

As for MC taking off his helmet, it'll never happen, Bungie has already stated in the past that MC will never take his helmet off.

[JAY R0CK 71]

I think you should be able to run n gun but accuracy would drop when running.
Both guys/girls should have a dash/run but girls would run a little faster allowing them to jump bigger gapps than guys could......both should be able to peek around corners,of corse.

.

why do you keep saying that? boys girls, =====equal!!!!

the skill i was talkin about dex is fast reflexes and it contains some strategy, not all. that 8 year old wouldnt know to throw a grenade in front of someone so he could snipe theyre face. and you dont pack skill goodies in your lunchbox either. you told me not to but im gonna, ur a hater. the more adult or older halo players have better depth perception and things like that so skill can come into play. also, that 8 year old wont beat pros these days. im not seeing him win mlg's

ugh. man its hard to keep up with you guys. im not a halo fanboy. i dont even follow the story in campaign. i like the game play. keep suggestions up guys. we got a debate/billboard/hateration club/ fan club/memories/spamed up thread on our hands

[Dizzydude]

You could always make it hold "X" to put your gun away and then you would run when you moved the left joy stick. Actually it would make more sense if you held "Y".

[icy]

As long as they work on it more then they did Halo 2, I'm sure it will be awesome.

[Kal-El]

as anyone who knows what they are doing would just be the character with the best specs.

That's what you don't get. It's all about balance. If Bungie does something right for once and balance the character classes well enough, then there won't be a class with the "best specs." It'll all depend on style of play.

If you'd rather more manuverability and being able to get away from danger, then you take a cetain class.

If you'd rather be slower but more powerful/accurate, then you take another.

UBI tried the class thing with Halo six: Lockdown, but they didn't balance the characters right. It was a good idea, but poorly executed. You'd train your medic up as high as you can, only to find out that what's supposedly your strongest weapon (nerve gas) doesn't really do anything at all (people run right though it).

[Dizzydude]

The thing is, Halo's not an RPG!

I think they'd first need to focus on proper weapon balancing before they even try to make different classes (which I think would ruin the mechanics of the gameplay).

[justinbaily]

Well you just doubble tapp the movement stick to dash and as for peeking it'd be like graw where you pushed the movement stick towards the wall then away to leave cover.....freelook would,of corse,handle looking around the corner.

[H2O SkywalkerX]

different classes isnt a halo thing. in fact it would basically ruin gameplay.
1. lets say if you are a heavy gunner. ok you are walking over the sniper rifle, but because of your class you cant grab it and they get it.
thats just one example, what they should do is just have the weapons from halo1 balanced perfectly.
then just have some old maps (sidewinder!) and add some new GOOD maps.

[Apoth3osis]

I think they need to leave Halo to be Halo, keep GRAW the way it is, and not try and mix 'em up.

[xi Apocalypse ix]

I agree too Apoth3osis, but we need duel weild swords

[H2O Xyanyde]

I agree too Apoth3osis, but we need duel weild swords


At the risk of sounding mean... I think Master Chief should dual wield dictionaries, so kids will start to check their spelling before performing a double kill on the english language. (triple kill if you want to count punctuation...)

[H2O SkywalkerX]

I agree too Apoth3osis, but we need duel weild swords

seriously. choke and die.

[JAY R0CK 71]

haha. im with skywalker on this. dual swords is pointless.

[justinbaily]

Bungie themselves were going to add both dash/peek around corners to halo 2 but ran out of time-microsoft said enough finish it already-when nov 9 was revealed even act 3 was cut.....now if they wanted to finish what they started we could see stuff like dash/peek in halo 3.

As for classes all spartans are trained equally in all arms/tactics so there'd be no
medic,heavy arms,light arms etc.....just slight variances between male/female.

BOTH guys/girls would have a dash but girls would run slightly faster and jump slightly farther while guys could melee in fewer strikes than girls but we'll have to see if bungie adds stuff that was originally cut from halo 2 or not....obviously they must top halo 2 or it won't get the acclaim that halo or halo 2 did.

Halo must be re-built for next gen almost from scratch with only the essence of what makes halo brought from the orignalls-graphics,sound,controlls (if dash/peek are added) and even live will all be built largely from scratch.

it's like going from zelda ocurina of time to twlight priencess on wii everything was re-built and only what makes up any zelda game was used-all librarys were built anew.

I seriouslly doubt it'll be halo wolfensteign with classes of spartans because that's not HALO-that's other games.

[black mamba DSO]

One thing I've been wanting since Halo 1...

COMPLETELY customizable multiplayer.. Golden Eye got that right. You could turn on EXACTLY the weapons you wanted in the map. Not this "all duals" "all rifles" crap. Choose the type of grenades that you want on (ie: stickies only.)

PLEASE TAKE OUT THE NOOB COMBO! or at least NEVER have the plasma pistol and BR on the same map as default.

Sometimes I think it would be cool to customize how violent the game is. You could have a bloody match where peoples arms are falling off, or the classic style (less blood.)

I would like weather conditions and atmosphere to be an option (like in plenty of games, even golf games have this.) Nighttime, daytime, rainy, sunny, snowy, etc. (think of ghost recon: advanced warfighter, they have some SWEET multiplayer maps.)

And last but not least, male or female characters. different voices (a female sound when you die, not just a male.) It would be cool to be able to have no mask in multiplayer and customize your character's appearance.

So yeah, that's pretty much my main things. I don't think the grenades need to be stronger, an upgraded magnum would be nice. i just think the old one was prettier, i didn't like it better, plus the new one takes FOREVER to reload.. not cool for a weak weapon. I think the sword lunge should be decreased.

OOOH yeah, and some coward medals would be cool.
Example:
-Coward medal (someone who camps a lot)
-medal for someone who uses one weapon constantly
-medal for someone who constantly gets power ups (overshield/cloak)
etc.

[EpiK SkillZ]

lol black mamba has some of the right ideas right there^

I like the idea about full customization and male and female characters. I can't stand not being able to have an all sticky game, its pisses the crap outta me sometimes.

[Dizzydude]

Bungie themselves were going to add both dash/peek around corners to halo 2 but ran out of time-microsoft said enough finish it already-when nov 9 was revealed even act 3 was cut.....now if they wanted to finish what they started we could see stuff like dash/peek in halo 3.

If there will be peek, it would stay in first-person, it would make it too GRAWy if it went into third.

I don't like the differences between the male and females, I don't think it would work out. Seriously who would want to run faster (maybe I could see that), but jumping farther over hitting harder?

Maybe they'll add more feminine colors to the mix so there will be more selection for the female population and to make their Spartan look "girly", since in reality, female Spartans don't differ at all from their male counterparts.

[Genesis11]

(Off topic: Someone said that the sex difference idea was stupid because "boys and girls are equal." Sure, we may be equal as far as mind and rights go, but I think that people have take this a bit too far. Guys do not = girls. If they did, we wouldn't be humans, we'd be Eloi. (Thanks Wells...))

On topic: I still don't even get why people suggest two swords. I mean, how is that even possible? Is it really that hard to just pull the trigger twice really fast to do two strikes? Do you need to pull both triggers to do the same thing? And what about lock on? I mean, since a lock-on means instant death anyway, would you need to wait til both swords were locked on? What if you locked on to two different people- would we see the Spartan split in two as his two alien weapons launched in opposite directions?

I like the idea of having slight performance differences. In fact, I agree with everything Mamba suggested. One thing though... GIVE ME BACK MY BLACK ARMOR. STEEL IS A STUPID EXCUSE FOR A REPLACEMENT....

[Cr4nf0rd]

I think dual swords would be very confusing.